Scammers & Thieves + OLD Timewaster (UPDATED 9/16/10)

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D-Lite - (Timewaster) Dean has been owing Battlesmurf some items for a mod job for some months now. Numerous people have tried to contact Dean on his behalf but have yet to recieve any responses from him. Once money/items change hands it is the responsibility of the seller/modder to do the work in a timely manner ...OR... at the very least, keep in constant contact with their customer(s). It seems that Dean took on a job during a time that he was too busy to complete it. This will be revised only when Battlesmurf recieves what he has paid for. Read about it here:

Wasabi was able to make contact with Dean. Dean has completed his deal with Battlesmurf and added some extras to make up for the confusion. Dean has made the effort to send all unfinished work to Nat over at the pce forums for completion. If you need some work done by Dean keep in mind that you may have to wait longer than usual and that communication can become sketchy but he is one of the best at modding pce/turbo stuff. As long as that doesn't bother you, then you will be okay. Status has been changed to Timewaster.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178982



sofmap.hk -( Thief/Scammer) - Ebay seller that has been confirmed to be a scammer/thief. Thanks to forum member kitkit.com for giving me the necessary information to post here.

rirififi222 (french person on Ebay), total lost $3,500 USD+

luxuryneo77 (Italian NG member), scammed $1,500 USD but received about $1,100 USD (need to verify) from paypal

Fish_Monger (US NG member), scammed $230 but received total refund from credit card and paypal.

For more info, please refer to:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180000

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180001

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181007

Segasonicfan (Timewaster/Thief) - thchardcore had a deal going with Segasonicfan that involved a monitor being damaged. Supposedly, segasonicfan sold off parts and did a half-assed (yet incomplete) attempt at salvaging another monitor. thchardcore made a thread whcich ended up in the war room asking questions which SSF never bothered to address the issues. SSF's last activity on the boards was:

View Profile: segasonicfan (33)
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His last recorded post was back in March where he was aware of this thread but states that he isn't going to be bothered with it.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2474778&postcount=137
 
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FOXEN SCAMMER THIEF

Stole £110 from me and refuses to return it please add this shithead to the list.
 
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Bulletnyourass said:
D-Lite - (Thief/Scammer) Dean has been owing Battlesmurf some items for a mod job for some months now. Numerous people have tried to contact Dean on his behalf but have yet to recieve any responses from him. Once money/items change hands it is the responsibility of the seller/modder to do the work in a timely manner ...OR... at the very least, keep in constant contact with their customer(s). It seems that Dean took on a job during a time that he was too busy to complete it. This will be revised only when Battlesmurf recieves what he has paid for. Read about it here:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178982
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You should update that.
 
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Doctor Shroom said:
You should update that.
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Yeah ... I just read over at the PCE forums that Dean has turned over all incomplete work to Nat. That was the last of the info I was waiting on. Status has been changed to Timewaster.
 
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Bibliophile said:
Do you mean SegaFan4Life, instead of SegaSonicFan?
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He means segasonicfan. The problem with this addition is that I don't have an actual sales thread to go by. I am only going by a thread that thc made in regards to a deal the 2 of them had that went pear-shaped. The 2 other people who know about the deal didn't even want to be bothered with it ..so I am listing this one based on the facts that SSF admitted to not wanting to be bothered with responding to the thread. Also he hasn't made a single post since March ..however he last logged in on May 1, 2008. Generally, I dont add these with such little info to go on ... but thc seems to definitely be in the right here. If something changes ... status will be adjusted.

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THC is definitely not in the right and its not a black/white issue like I stole something from him (I certainly don’t entertain a past time of stealing property and breaking it).

I chose not to get involved with thchardcore's childish games, especially considering his constant threats of legal action (though I'm not sure exactly how might go about such proceedings). I believe I explained my role in the situation and all the work I did to rectify it. If people want to consider me a scammer beyond that, that's fine. But I believe clarification should be made when calling someone a "thief" - that implies I made some end off the bargain to which I did not (in fact I lost $100s and many many hours of my time).

Not trying to stir up anything here though as I really don't have the time or energy to deal with this at the moment. but there's a little clarification if anyone decides to care enough to hear me out.

*waits for thchardcore and others' rebuttal into an endless feud of timewasting senselessness*
 
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Bulletnyourass said:
He means segasonicfan. The problem with this addition is that I don't have an actual sales thread to go by. I am only going by a thread that thc made in regards to a deal the 2 of them had that went pear-shaped. The 2 other people who know about the deal didn't even want to be bothered with it ..so I am listing this one based on the facts that SSF admitted to not wanting to be bothered with responding to the thread. Also he hasn't made a single post since March ..however he last logged in on May 1, 2008. Generally, I dont add these with such little info to go on ... but thc seems to definitely be in the right here. If something changes ... status will be adjusted.

Phillip
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Dude, I am normally right there with you on these things, but I just don't understand this one. I mean, Theif status based on that War Room circle jerk that even Tonk washed his hands of in terms of fault? I don't like the precident of labeling people in this thread based on drama posts with zero hard evidence of intentional wrong doing. The greatness of this thread, and your work, is that it's always so well documented. This isn't, and it bugs me.

I know I rarely post, but I have alot of respect for the work you guys put into this to help lurkers like myself. Just so ya know.
 
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Well .... Like I've said before. I go by whats available for me to read. SSF had basically fallen off the face of the forums. His last recorded post was in March. However, he was still coming to the board because it was showing everytime he had logged in which at the time I had done this was May 16 (He logged in on May 3). So for 2 months he had made no further posts with a deal that had some issues still unresolved and logging into the forums and not posting.

I dont have personal vendettas against the people I add and I also get tired of the constant complaining that people have been giving me lately about the additions. When someone sends money or items to someone and then feels that they have been cheated, they want someone to help them in any way possible. If you read the last part of my post you will see that I said if I find out anything different then his status will be posted. Do you know that a lot of time I have to add people to the list just to get them to respond? SSF, for whatever reason, had not posted in months. He probably wouldn't have posted in this thread if it wasn't for me labeling him. If he provides some info his status can be changed or even removed. Also, I had been trying to find out information since when thc first asked me to add him

04-17-2008, 12:55 AM
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Hey,

Not sure if you've had any time to look at this, but I think it's pretty cut and dry. Let me know if you have any updates, still kind of sore over this whole thing.

Mike

So this was a month before I added him to the list. Within that month I kept checking to still see if he was logging in (which he was) and to see if he was posting or creating new threads (which he wasnt). All SSF has to do is give me information to go on then it can be resolved.

As for labeling people off of Drama posts .... That thread started off with an unhappy customer who wanted some questions answered. The person who it was directed to didnt answer it. It was all of the subsequent posts that led it to the war room. If SSF can send me some links to a thread that has more info in it for me to read then I'll be expecting it by this evening. When I checked I couldn't find anything. Funny thing ... people constantly complain about how I do this ... the process is the same for EVERYONE! If you feel it should be done a better way how about helping out with the list. How about doing some investigating. How about starting your own thread and then you can do it any way you please. Until this glorious day comes and people on this site become UNIFIED we wont have all of these problems with scammers and thieves. People only want to get involved when it happens to them. It's funny because TonK and I were just talking about this last night on AIM about how there is no unity here.

Phillip
 
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Thanks for the response Phillip- I can clearly see your point of view now and it does make a lot of sense.

SSF, for whatever reason, had not posted in months. He probably wouldn't have posted in this thread if it wasn't for me labeling him.
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True I suppose, though I'm not sure what kind of person wouldn't post anything if he was labeled as a thief and put on a list of scammers. However, my interest in this matter is pretty mild (I can't say I care too great about people labeling me as a thief when concerning the ambiguity of the situation here- the result of which is obviously faulty for that very reason).

In any case, I see your view and it is understandable: I did not respond to the accusations of thchardcore. And the lack of responding on my part is due to several things:

1) thchardcore offered me a deal to amend the situation and I accepted. Then he rescinded his offer saying that my acceptance was proof of wrongdoing. So he proceeded to start his childish squabbling.

2) thchardcore threatened me constantly with legal action, and as such I do not wish to post things on a public forum as anything I type can/could be used in court proceedings against me.

3) I have had a lot of personal things to deal with that are far more important that thchardcore's accusations and inaccurate perceptions of events. I have not been gaming in quite some time because I have had more pressing matters (both medical and personal).

4) Most arguing on these forums goes on for a very long time with many unassociated parties chiming in to give their viewpoints. Threads become arduously long and slanderous, escalating from childish and callous behavior.

For these reasons I chose to stay away from the forums altogether, especially being that I have not been gaming at all, nor buying or selling and games or modding services. It would be nice to clear my name from this ridiculousness, but I do not have the energy or inclination to proceed in a long drawn-out, name-calling, fact-blurring process. I'm sure Mike has many friends that would chime in to defend his position regardless of association and it would just add to the incredible waste of time these situations become.

to put it concisely, thchardcore made an offer to put this thing behind us, to which I accepted and he later decided it was not good enough. As far as I am concerned that offer remains to put this situation to rest and his childish behavior has led this to the public.
 
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segasonicfan said:
Thanks for the response Phillip- I can clearly see your point of view now and it does make a lot of sense.



True I suppose, though I'm not sure what kind of person wouldn't post anything if he was labeled as a thief and put on a list of scammers. However, my interest in this matter is pretty mild (I can't say I care too great about people labeling me as a thief when concerning the ambiguity of the situation here- the result of which is obviously faulty for that very reason).

In any case, I see your view and it is understandable: I did not respond to the accusations of thchardcore. And the lack of responding on my part is due to several things:

1) thchardcore offered me a deal to amend the situation and I accepted. Then he rescinded his offer saying that my acceptance was proof of wrongdoing. So he proceeded to start his childish squabbling.

2) thchardcore threatened me constantly with legal action, and as such I do not wish to post things on a public forum as anything I type can/could be used in court proceedings against me.

3) I have had a lot of personal things to deal with that are far more important that thchardcore's accusations and inaccurate perceptions of events. I have not been gaming in quite some time because I have had more pressing matters (both medical and personal).

4) Most arguing on these forums goes on for a very long time with many unassociated parties chiming in to give their viewpoints. Threads become arduously long and slanderous, escalating from childish and callous behavior.

For these reasons I chose to stay away from the forums altogether, especially being that I have not been gaming at all, nor buying or selling and games or modding services. It would be nice to clear my name from this ridiculousness, but I do not have the energy or inclination to proceed in a long drawn-out, name-calling, fact-blurring process. I'm sure Mike has many friends that would chime in to defend his position regardless of association and it would just add to the incredible waste of time these situations become.

to put it concisely, thchardcore made an offer to put this thing behind us, to which I accepted and he later decided it was not good enough. As far as I am concerned that offer remains to put this situation to rest and his childish behavior has led this to the public.
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SegaSonicFan,

I just got home and I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have to run an errand but as soon as I get home I will make a change to this thread and I will send you a personal PM also.

Phillip
 
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There is never a reason to have more then a 72 hour delay between agreeing on the deal, and sending the items out.

EVER.
 
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MeTaLCzAr said:
There is never a reason to have more then a 72 hour delay between agreeing on the deal, and sending the items out.

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I would disagree. 72 hours to ship is not an excessive long time. I can think of countless justifications for exceeding 72 hours.

Keep in mind many of the members of this forum work full-time, and may not be able to get the post office except for only one or two days a week. If you work Monday-Friday and don't get off work till the post office is closed, then you might only have one day a week to make it to the post office (Saturday morning). Thus, a person closing a deal on a Saturday night would not be able to ship it till the next Saturday morning in such an instance. There are many other examples of justifications for exceeding 72 hours.

The important thing is not merely how long it takes to ship, but also COMMUNICATION. If the seller encounters some circumstance that causes an unforeseeable delay in shipping, he should inform the buyer of such. If the buyer can't wait, then the seller should refund the buyer. But most buyers don't mind some delay, so long as the seller stays in touch with them.
 
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Bibliophile said:
I would disagree. 72 hours to ship is not an excessive long time. I can think of countless justifications for exceeding 72 hours.

Keep in mind many of the members of this forum work full-time, and may not be able to get the post office except for only one or two days a week. If you work Monday-Friday and don't get off work till the post office is closed, then you might only have one day a week to make it to the post office (Saturday morning). Thus, a person closing a deal on a Saturday night would not be able to ship it till the next Saturday morning in such an instance. There are many other examples of justifications for exceeding 72 hours.

The important thing is not merely how long it takes to ship, but also COMMUNICATION. If the seller encounters some circumstance that causes an unforeseeable delay in shipping, he should inform the buyer of such. If the buyer can't wait, then the seller should refund the buyer. But most buyers don't mind some delay, so long as the seller stays in touch with them.
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We have differing opinions, if you have enough time to post something for sale on a forum, then use your job as the excuse for shipping slow, then I draw up short.

If you take the time to post, then MAKE the time to ship.

I own my own company (Which means NO time off) and make it happen day in and day out, I have no sympathy on this subject.
 
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Just playing devil's advocate here, because I am in the same position as Bibliophile. . .

I am able to check the forum at work when I have a minute, but that is different than being able to leave work to go to the post office for personal business.

One who owns their own company would be able to leave whenever they want to take care of personal business.

On the other hand, I can schedule a pickup from UPS or DHL, and have the package picked up at my office.

I think that some people are just impatient. Does it really matter if it takes a few more days to get a game? As long as a seller communicates, so that the buyer knows he isn't getting ripped off, a week sounds pretty reasonable to me.
 
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See this is where things get convoluted and dicey. As Bib said, communication is the first step. The second step is follow through. If you say it will go out on Saturday, and you send it on Saturday only a complete jerk should have a problem with that. However if you said it will go out, and it doesn't, that's where warning flags go off. One missed ship date, I think, is still reasonable; Shit Happens. But its when two, three, four missed dates, and then lack of communication, it all piles up quick.

Communication + Follow through = great transaction

Artificial and arbitrary time lines are being part of the problem, in my opinion.
 
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