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Final Frontier isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's better than Insurrection, and the second & third reboot films.
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Insurrection, I'll give you leeway on that since it too was awful, but it at least had decent effects and didn't have a hair metal Klingon/floating God head as a bad guy.
Final Frontier was awful across the board outside of the scenes with Sybok's scenes with McCoy and his dad, and Spock being born. The only nuggets of gold in a steaming pile. Shatner writing/directing + 1988 writers strike + ILM not being available for SFX = hot garbage.
Into Darkness, for all its flaws that piss off fans well versed in series canon and "rules", was still a mostly well-made and entertaining watch.
Beyond is a genuinely great movie and easily the best of the three JJ films, and best overall since First Contact IMO.
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Reviews for Picard S3 have been stellar. Even longtime Nu Trek haters like Nerdrotic and RMB are on board after having seen screeners for either the first six episodes, or all ten.
After seeing episode 1, I can see why. Only one episode in and it definitely feels way more like Trek then the first two seasons, and the writing is noticeably better.
Only real complaint is there's more of that dumb grimdark blue/sepia everything lighting and color correction that makes it look washed out and bland. Want to really bring back TNG? Bring back the natural lighting and color from the show or movies.
After seeing episode 1, I can see why. Only one episode in and it definitely feels way more like Trek then the first two seasons, and the writing is noticeably better.
Only real complaint is there's more of that dumb grimdark blue/sepia everything lighting and color correction that makes it look washed out and bland. Want to really bring back TNG? Bring back the natural lighting and color from the show or movies.
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I was sort of hoping we'd get the first two episodes or a 2 hour opener - as an episode I'm definitely just left wanting more. I hope it's not a continual mystery each episode until it's resolved.
Also...
...when are we going to get some Trek that explores what happened with the Borg at the end of S2 of Picard. I mean the new Borg under Queen Jurati sought to...join the Federation. Like, how do you drop that and not do a followup.
Also...
...when are we going to get some Trek that explores what happened with the Borg at the end of S2 of Picard. I mean the new Borg under Queen Jurati sought to...join the Federation. Like, how do you drop that and not do a followup.
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SNW is better than Discovery, which isn't that hard. Star Trek Picard is way better than both SNW and Discovery.
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This is accurate information. But tbh having a bad case of chlamydia is better than Discovery. Discovery is actually worse than Enterprise. Its that bad.
This is inaccurate information. As much as I like Trek and TNG, the first 2 seasons were pretty underwhelming all in all. This first episode was pretty good but I cannot stand that Raffi chick so any time shes on screen I kinda check out. SNW is literally the most Trek-like Trek show since TNG.
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Also no.
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SNW is more like the original Treks than Discovery was, I guess. But mainly because it has less political content than Discovery.
Out of the new Star Treks that have come out in recent years, only Picard is (arguably) as good as Enterprise, and that's because it has the actors/characters from TNG, and not too much woke/political content. I didn't like the CGI on Enterprise though, or the last episode. Anyone who says they don't like Enterprise should watch the two "In a Mirror, Darkly" episodes, and then tell me they don't like it.
I've seen (at least once) all of the episodes of TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, Picard, and all of the movies. I've also seen some episodes of Discovery & SNW. But Discovery had so much political content, that's why I haven't seen all the episodes. It actually made it hard to watch.
I suppose TNG is more politically correct than TOS. But I think political correctness can ruin Star Trek, if there's too much. Real Star Trek is supposed to be about an interesting & engaging story, not (current) politics.
The Orville also has some woke/political content. But apart from that, it's arguably to closest to the old Trek, in how the show is made/produced, even more than Star Trek: Picard.
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Orville S3 didn't dip its toes into political content, it dove into the pool. There's a difference and its target audience isn't oblivious. It's a campy sci fi show that shifted into something else. Star Trek didn't need to advertise it was progressive, it just was.
Discovery was decent in its original screenplay. The current adaptation is below average. Mostly because it didn't follow the original writing. There is a lot to like in Discovery if you can ignore all the pieces that are absolutely terrible.
Discovery was decent in its original screenplay. The current adaptation is below average. Mostly because it didn't follow the original writing. There is a lot to like in Discovery if you can ignore all the pieces that are absolutely terrible.
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The first two seasons of Orville were pretty great and it really did feel like an extension of TNG, especially with a lot of Trek people working on it.
But the third season was just overtly preachy and had annoying changes.
I checked out of discovery in whatever season it was that they blew up the black dudes planet. I think. Third? The whole thing with the trans kid who was dead that was dating the trans girl who was/wasn't a host for a Trill was completely stupid.
The only good thing to come from Discovery was Saru, Jason Isaac's Lorca and Strange New Worlds.
Other than that, Discovery is 100% forgettable shippable garbage. And the main character is completely worthless.
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So Picard S1 was the resolution of Data’s story.
Picard S2 was the resolution of Picard’s story about family (which was only briefly explored Generations and I think tangentially it’s what Nemesis is about.)
I wonder what S3 will ultimately be about.
Picard S2 was the resolution of Picard’s story about family (which was only briefly explored Generations and I think tangentially it’s what Nemesis is about.)
I wonder what S3 will ultimately be about.
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It's the reason I think Trek 3 is such a garbage movie. Well, the biggest reason, at least.
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Yeah, I agree - though it’s clear that Spock not being dead was always the plan. Oh well.
I do like the interaction between Kirk and Spock at the end. Spock asking Kirk “Why would you do this?” is so Vulcan/Spock and of course Kirk’s reply “Sometimes the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.”
I absolutely think that Kirk and the crew would do whatever it took to rescue Spock, I just hate the circumstances it happened in was magical resurrection.
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I think my testosterone just left my body in embarrassment
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I think my testosterone just left my body in embarrassment
Do you even like Star Trek?
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I bet you say that to all the girls
No of course I don't! I like the soft touch of a woman x