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I'll say this.

LOST has one good season. The first one. Then it goes to shit.

But I will admit that my opinion is based on watching it weekly for 6 seasons. If it's bingeable, then maybe it won't be so bad.

BUT.... That shows ending is absolute fucking garbage. No real questions answered. It is one of the worst finales of any show ever in the history of television. Worse than Sam Beckett never coming home. Worse than Sam Malone walking to the back of the bar. Worse than ALF getting experimented on by the government.

EDIT: WORSE THAN GAME OF THRONES' ENDING.

LOST's ending fucking SUCKED.

The opening episode of Season 6 was awesome, but as the season progressed I had a bad feeling and sure enough the ending was very disappointing. I tried to rewatch it and couldn't make it through. Literally anything would have been better than the bullshit they came up with.
 

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Like anything else, LOST had a ton of promise...then fell flat on its face. Like I said earlier, it's the super long winded "mystery" crap that goes on and on and never pays off in the end. Too much random shit that went nowhere, too much time wasted on pointless filler "flashbacks" that had no value...and yeah, the ending was shit.

I guess this is my beef with many shows, they're too long winded, they take WAY too much time to accomplish so little and often, the writing just goes to complete shit. Yes, GOT, I'm looking at you. Want another super awesome show that fell completely flat? Penny Dreadful. Awesome show, tons of promise, complete shit last season. There are many more just like that.
 

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Like anything else, LOST had a ton of promise...then fell flat on its face. Like I said earlier, it's the super long winded "mystery" crap that goes on and on and never pays off in the end. Too much random shit that went nowhere, too much time wasted on pointless filler "flashbacks" that had no value...and yeah, the ending was shit.

I guess this is my beef with many shows, they're too long winded, they take WAY too much time to accomplish so little and often, the writing just goes to complete shit. Yes, GOT, I'm looking at you. Want another super awesome show that fell completely flat? Penny Dreadful. Awesome show, tons of promise, complete shit last season. There are many more just like that.

I enjoyed the last season of PD. It wasn't as good as it started, but it could have been a fuck ton worse.

Example: The Strain.

As for GoT, try watching it in reverse. The writing really improves as you get to season 1.
 

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I enjoyed the last season of PD. It wasn't as good as it started, but it could have been a fuck ton worse.

Example: The Strain.

As for GoT, try watching it in reverse. The writing really improves as you get to season 1.
Dammit I never finished PD or the strain and have been meaning to. Guess there's no point then :(
 

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Game of Thrones series finale was so terrible there is a strong community still talking about it one year later (/r/freefolk).

What was the point for Hodor to sacrifice himself? No reason

Remember Quaithe? Nope

Remember when Ned heard Bran at the Tower of Joy? Didn't matter

etc etc

It was such a monumental failure it deserves its own documentary. Of course it would never happen. But a big reason was it started pandering to people who had trouble keeping up with names in season 1. And the main reason was it ran out of source material as the fat fuck author doesn't give a shit either.

How incredible HBO greenlit something so terrible that it would destroy its merchandising empire.
 

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Game of Thrones series finale was so terrible there is a strong community still talking about it one year later (/r/freefolk).

What was the point for Hodor to sacrifice himself? No reason

Remember Quaithe? Nope

Remember when Ned heard Bran at the Tower of Joy? Didn't matter

etc etc

It was such a monumental failure it deserves its own documentary. Of course it would never happen. But a big reason was it started pandering to people who had trouble keeping up with names in season 1. And the main reason was it ran out of source material as the fat fuck author doesn't give a shit either.

How incredible HBO greenlit something so terrible that it would destroy its merchandising empire.

It dove so hard, so fast. At the end I was all "Jesus Christ...let's just get this over with already"...

Even shows like the Sopranos, which had a shit ending, wasn't complete trash leading up to it.

It makes you like shows like Breaking Bad all that much more. I may catch total shit for saying it, but The Good Place was also perfect. Perfect length, perfect timing, perfect ending. I hope Better Call Saul has the same treatment. With as perfect as it has been thus far, I have no reason to think otherwise.
 

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I watched through all of Sopranos recently. Awesome show. Loved the ending. Tony is always looking over his back. That's his life now. I intend for the ending to be that Tony died. The way it was shot, you can question if he lived - and you can rightfully say he would always be looking over his shoulder. But the way it was shot, Tony's daughter Meadow would have entered the restaurant at the exact time Tony got shot. It was infuriating watching her park her car until you realized if she was entered the restaurant a few seconds earlier she could've yelled at him to duck, or something.

I can understand why people hated that ending. But there was too much foreshadowing that Tony died ("you know when you die all you see is black" or something, and that's all there was).

You've got to be a Taiso to like that ending though. A guy who will analyze the shit out of everything and the why of it. Absolutely fantastic show though. I'd recommend someone watch it 100x over Game of Thrones.
 

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The last tv show I saw where I felt like they always knew the ending was The Leftovers.

Everything else seems to be a concept filmed to see if it takes off then make it up as they go along, and it shows.
 

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I watched through all of Sopranos recently. Awesome show. Loved the ending. Tony is always looking over his back. That's his life now. I intend for the ending to be that Tony died. The way it was shot, you can question if he lived - and you can rightfully say he would always be looking over his shoulder. But the way it was shot, Tony's daughter Meadow would have entered the restaurant at the exact time Tony got shot. It was infuriating watching her park her car until you realized if she was entered the restaurant a few seconds earlier she could've yelled at him to duck, or something.

I can understand why people hated that ending. But there was too much foreshadowing that Tony died ("you know when you die all you see is black" or something, and that's all there was).

You've got to be a Taiso to like that ending though. A guy who will analyze the shit out of everything and the why of it. Absolutely fantastic show though. I'd recommend someone watch it 100x over Game of Thrones.
Agreed on Sopranos. There are some dips here and there but definitely a great series.
 

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I just watched all of TURN: Washington's Spies on Netflix. Originally an AMC series. Absolutely amazing. AMAZING.
 

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Dammit I never finished PD or the strain and have been meaning to. Guess there's no point then :(

Yes to Penny Dreadful, and don’t bother with Strain. Even Quinlain ceased to be interesting. That’s how bad it got.
 

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Even shows like the Sopranos, which had a shit ending, wasn't complete trash leading up to it.

I have watched The Sopranos ending so many times (from when Tony enters the restaurant), or more precisely had it playing on repeat on the background for hours, and for the first time just now I noticed the way Tony and his wife and kid at the onion rings the exact same way, like eating bread chips during communion. I googled it and turns out duh, it's a reference to The Last Supper: http://mikecole.org/the-sopranos-ending-made-in-america/10/

What an incredible ending. I love shows where I can watch a second, third, fourth, hell even fifth viewing and still get something new from it. Arrested Development and Venture Bros spring to mind immediately for that. What other shows fit that category?
 

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Stopped watching it after season 2, seems like I didn't miss anything.

The problem with The Strain was more than just writing. Yeah, Coco and Palmer looked like a daytime soap. And yeah, Quinlan looked like shit in the end, as did the Master. But these problems were likely due to budgetary constraints. Fx probably didn't want to pay for what the show demanded. And by season 4, a lot of advertisers probably jumped ship too. But we see shows like TWD able to navigate the budget problem well enough.

What The Strain should have done:
Let characters die. Let the Master take over the body of Eph's son. Let the old man die. Let Eph die eventually. He's a fucking scientist, not a warrior.
Force Fet to survive like a rat, with Gus and Dutch, and you know what, Quinlan too, and maybe it could have all been wrapped up by season 3 and would have been better. Just an idea.
 

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Sometimes I think you should've moved to Hollywood and wrote these shows.
 

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LOST's finale was bad because it was underwhelming and because it reached, by a needlessly circuitous route, a destination smart audience members had LONG guessed.

But because the characters on that show were so strong for so long, I didn't feel empty. It was still a bad ending. The last minute plane escape was just stupid.

The show 'lost' it's way when it stopped being about Jack. It had many great characters but when he lost his intensity, the show went just as flaccid. Sawyer becoming a prime player was a mistake. Holloway is a good actor but when those character types become protagonists, they lose their edge.

Game of Throns, by far, was the worse ending. As 'sage said, the utter collapse of this series beggars belief. How HBO didn't just pull the show from D&D, invite GRRM back to be more involved (as he was in earlier seasons) and find new people to be the 'showrunners' to carry on for another 3-4 seasons is utterly beyond me.

As the series' ending proved, it's not like D&D really did anything for that series, anyway. One only need see the difference in season quality as the show progressed beyond the books to understand that those two jabronis were the Milli Vanilli of the showrunner industry.
 
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I have watched The Sopranos ending so many times (from when Tony enters the restaurant), or more precisely had it playing on repeat on the background for hours, and for the first time just now I noticed the way Tony and his wife and kid at the onion rings the exact same way, like eating bread chips during communion. I googled it and turns out duh, it's a reference to The Last Supper: http://mikecole.org/the-sopranos-ending-made-in-america/10/

What an incredible ending. I love shows where I can watch a second, third, fourth, hell even fifth viewing and still get something new from it. Arrested Development and Venture Bros spring to mind immediately for that. What other shows fit that category?

The Wire.
 

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I’m still watching The Walking Dead, every episode on release. I could’ve stopped a long time ago on numerous occasions but persisted and here I am.

I still enjoy it despite the rinse, repeat formula.
 

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I’m still watching The Walking Dead, every episode on release. I could’ve stopped a long time ago on numerous occasions but persisted and here I am.

I still enjoy it despite the rinse, repeat formula.

Same. I thought once rick was gone it would be the end for me but it turns out it's actually improved things imo.
 

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I’m still watching The Walking Dead, every episode on release. I could’ve stopped a long time ago on numerous occasions but persisted and here I am.

I still enjoy it despite the rinse, repeat formula.
I gave up about 3 eps into season 2. Once it diverged from the comic in the first season I was like eh... But kept going. Then in season 2, it just got boring-er.

I like the source material though I never finished the comic.
 

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Premier ep of Run was boring. Merritt Wever and Dohmnall Gleeson are both good actors but this script is unsalvageable so far.
 

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We finished Walking Dead Season 9 last week. It's back to being watchable, that's not a compliment, that's not a insult.

I watched the latest episode of Devs last night...another solid episode.

We also finished episode 1 of Tales from the Loop. I think we're going to highly enjoy this show. It seems that each episode is indeed a "tale", like the Twilight Zone or Amazing Stories. I hope they're all as good at the first one.

We also started McMillions last night. I'm always a fan of stuff like this. It was added to Hulu so I'w as thankful for that. So far, it's about as well done as I believe a FBI investigation can be. The first episode was a bit slow, but it's watchable.
 

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Tiger King

I watched this mostly because once the memes started cropping up, I wanted to understand what the fuck was going on.

Wow, what a show.

As I was watching this disastrous series of events, I couldn't help but think 'could any society other than the U.S.A. have produced this particular group of rogues, with these particular personality quirks and character traits?'

I don't think this scenario is possible anywhere else in the world. Yay us, I suppose.

The absolute ego of these people is so crazy that you couldn't make this shit up and have it be received as anything other than the blackest of comedy.

Burying Travis on the G.W. Zoo grounds beneath a pile of ATVs is like something you'd expect the Cohen Brothers to write. Same with Joe preying on Travis' desire to be cared for by telling him that liking big dicks in porn means you're probably gay-this is pure Cohen Brothers level stuff.

In fact, if you'd have told me the story of Tiger King before I knew this all really happened, I'd have said to cast Sean Penn as Joe Exotic, Danny McBride as Doc Antle, Kathy Bates as Carole (Fuckin') Baskin and Michael Emerson as Jeff Lowe.

It is so easy to get caught up in the drama, mesmerized by the clash of wills, bewildered by the desire to win and hypnotized by the swirling chaos of so many lies that you are legitimately unable to know the truth that it utterly beggars all belief. And, like everyone pulled into the abyss of this game of animal kingdom thrones, it's so easy to forget that the real victims in all this are the animals.

All of them are devious, cunning masterminds with long term goals with the exception of Joe Exotic. Hear me out.

I think Joe is very much like the bystanders and the audience. I think, at the start, he was the only one with a pure motivation. But you watch this guy go through all of this and you see just how alone and abandoned he felt from a young age . Being gay with his upbringing, in his environment, at his age, must have been an incredibly isolated experience. Everything he did was precisely because he had a lot of love in his heart wanted to be loved back.

The garish outfits. The country music (dubious if he's even singing it but I'm inclined to believe it if only because the show peeled back so many other layers of his life that if this wasn't real, it probably would have exposed this, too), the outlandish segments he filmed, the king's throne, cuddling with tigers and other big game and wild animals, seeking acceptance and love from vulnerable human strays that he took in. The politics, the desire to defeat Carole Baskin. All of it came from loneliness.

But as the walls closed in on Joe, he became more and more desperate and didn't see that he was becoming the worst out of all of them. Compromising every morel tenet that he professed to uphold because being successful and adored was more important than doing what was best for the animals and his workers. He was a bigger enemy to himself than any of the people he found himself pitted against. Pure Greek tragedy.

There was a lot of stuff to be learned from how big cats and other wild animals are treated at these places, how these businesses cut corners (like the Walmart meat donations) to stay open and of all the shady under the table shit (like selling off tiger cubs just to keep the money flowing). This show is an indictment on the way business is conducted in the American heartland in niche industries. It makes me wonder how any of these places are going to survive in a post-COVID world. Like many niche industries (like comic books, for example), they were walking the edge of economic collapse and were absolutely NOT buffered for this kind of financial downturn.

Even if you don't care about this subject matter, it is an utterly absorbing portrait into the human psyche.

I'm not saying it's the 'greatest documentary ever made', but it's one of the few that isn't specifically a history related subject that I was glad to have watched. I totally understand the hype.

Also, Carole Baskin 1000000% killed her husband and Joe Exotic, for all his flaws and mistakes, was totally set up by Jeff Lowe. And Doc Antle is the most evil out of all of them.
 
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