Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves

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Thanks to this thread, I've been playing the first three FFs. Will probably make a thread about the first game if I feel like it, and as I get older I appreciate FFS more than I did as a kid, but it's good to see 3 still holds up really well for me. It was my favorite in the series when I was in high school and it's still my favorite 20 years later. Honestly I think it's the best single-player experience in a fighter of all time.
That intro and the single player story both hold up really well even compared to later games.
 

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TBH, FF3 felt like the last "proper" FF title. It picked up where FF1 left off in terms of feeling like an interconnected story.
This is a completely retarded thing to say when the game that came immediately after FF3 was RBFF.
 

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This is a completely retarded thing to say when the game that came immediately after FF3 was RBFF.
Nah dawg we all know RBFF is basically Fatal Fury Gaiden. There's no number in the title, no number! My gawd, all they had to do was call it Fatal Fury 4: Real Bout, but they didn't by jove they didn't!Fatal Fury Gaiden it is then.
 

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RBFF was an upgrade/fix for FF3 originally.
At some point they just decided to do an alternate retelling of the story so...
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RBFF is quite literally an upgrade to FF3.

All copies of RBFF (NGH-095) contain some roms from Fatal Fury 3 inside (NGH-069).

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The gameplay and roster of RBFF1 is an upgrade to FF3, but the story isn't. Basically it's just like FF1 where there's Geese commenting here and there in-between battles, but all of the awesome pre and post fight interactions between the characters and other story style bits are gone. The only real story you get is in the endings with some pictures and no text.
 

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This is a completely retarded thing to say when the game that came immediately after FF3 was RBFF.
I'm only comparing FF3's story/immersion to further titles in the series.

Every individual opponent in FF3's story mode made it feel like incremental progress towards the endgame, whereas RBFF just dumps 3 consecutive characters for you to fight with no rhyme or reason, much like World Heroes 2 Jet. Having owned FF3, RBFF, and RBS, there was a noticeable decline in attention to worldbuilding with each release, which is why RB2 just felt flat.

In particular, the way Yamazaki is built up between the intro, mid-game, and battle in the train stage is executed perfectly.
 

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I like all the background details in Fatal Fury 3. There is just so much going on in that game if you are given a minute to breathe and look at it. And now that I have a home system with a Unibios, I can turn on invincibility and infinite time to just take it all in without having to fight for my life. And that OST is the best SNK has ever produced in my opinion.

Real Bout Fatal Fury is more fun to play as a game and I like its faster pace a lot more. And it's also got a great ending if you finish with Terry. But I still have mad respect for what the devs did with Fatal Fury 3.
 

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Nah dawg we all know RBFF is basically Fatal Fury Gaiden. There's no number in the title, no number! My gawd, all they had to do was call it Fatal Fury 4: Real Bout, but they didn't by jove they didn't!Fatal Fury Gaiden it is then.
S+ tier bait right here. 2007stk would have lost his shit.
 

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It's a spiritual remake, but not a literal one. Still a sequel to FF3's story where Geese won, got the scrolls, and destroyed them so none of his enemies could try and take them.
 

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The scrolls never amounted to anything, did they? I remember in the RBFF manual, Geese just says he doesn't feel any different and (IIRC) just asks Billy to get rid of them.
 

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In Rock Howard's ending in Mark of the Wolves, (paraphrasing here) Kain says, "After your mother died, Geese's will was found. But, its message was indecipherable to all."

To which Rock responds, while grabbing Kain's collar, "You think I understand you?! Too bad, it's Greek to me!"

I can't help but feel Kain was referring to the scrolls of Jin but, I guess we'll never know. Also, that translation of the ending was pretty Engrish.

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I figured Geese read the scrolls and became immortal but he either didn't realize he had or they don't quite work like he thought they should/would.
 

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There was a time when I used to put the pieces to these lore puzzles together.

Now I just think SNK needed some kind of narrative to explain why these people are fighting and from game to game, stuff like the Jin scrolls were just a way to get it to happen. They were always more interested in the characters and their relationships than what they were doing at any given time, I think.
 

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There was a time when I used to put the pieces to these lore puzzles together.

Now I just think SNK needed some kind of narrative to explain why these people are fighting and from game to game, stuff like the Jin scrolls were just a way to get it to happen. They were always more interested in the characters and their relationships than what they were doing at any given time, I think.
What? You're saying it's all a bunch of BS to have the characters fight? I've wasted my life. 😆
 

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What? You're saying it's all a bunch of BS to have the characters fight? I've wasted my life. 😆
You? I used to debate who the strongest characters were and argued for headcanon that didn't matter.

I was in my 30s doing this.

I was such a faget.
 

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Yeah, that was tongue in cheek. I never cared much. I fear the goobs commenting on my videos whenever I cover an SNK fighting game. Sounds like you're a recovering canon goob.
 

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I've often said that Star Wars was the thing that told a part of my brain it would never grow up. That's how all the investment in escapism began.

When Disney showed me that they don't care about Star Wars or its established history, I started seeing this attitude in a lot more of the things I loved. And if they don't care, why should I?

I still enjoy the stories for what thety are and am really looking forward to City of the Wolves because I think the continuation of the story from the end of Real Bout Fatal Fury was pretty great for a video game, very character focused with Terry deciding to atone for killing Geese by raising Rock and, one would hope, showing him a better way than Geese might have. I want to see that story continue. It's good enough to merit my valuing it. The sequel itself feels like a passion project and a labor of love as much as it is a revival of an old IP so I feel that it deserves a chance to win me over.

But honestly, it doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme. Enjoy it or don't. But arguing about it or investing too much of yourself into it is pointless. Harmful, even.

If I want to put that much of myself into something, I have books.
 

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All my canon goobery is dedicated to Star Trek now. Used to have a lot more, but it's just not worth the mental effort anymore.

Still remember all the classic SNK canon stuff from the 90s but stopped caring during the Ash saga.
 

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I've often said that Star Wars was the thing that told a part of my brain it would never grow up. That's how all the investment in escapism began.
Yeah, exactly same.

When Disney showed me that they don't care about Star Wars or its established history, I started seeing this attitude in a lot more of the things I loved. And if they don't care, why should I?
Again, same. I guess I still kind of care, but only for material up until the point in time the stewards of the material stopped caring/got handed over to people without the first fucking idea what the material they inherited was about. And I'm less interested in debating others who may fully accept the new subverted material. They're free to enjoy it, I may even enjoy some of it to some extent, but it's not part of the same thing.

In terms of Fatal Fury, we'll see.
 
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