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kernow

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Yes, he seems like a well rounded individual to be trusted with firearms
 

smokehouse

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Classic, but not buying one.

I would love to shoot one of those. The design is amazing, and it would be a neat collection piece...but I wonder if it shoots well

I won't sit here and claim that I've messed with a bunch of HK handguns, and many do not have great triggers.


Moving on...

I might have mentioned earlier that I have this current weird fixation on 10mm. I bought that SA ronin, and decided to mess with loads. I'll preface that I won't sit here and claim that I'm the most effective with a 1911 platform, as I prefer double stack polymer guns. With that said, I found 10mm hard to control (yeah, big surprise, a round that is notorious for being hard to control, is hard to control). Down near 40 S&W levels (950-1050 fps 180g), the gun is pretty tame, and I've been able to get somewhere in my ability to shoot the thing. Get much hotter than that, and the gun really bucks.

It was my drive to re-create the original "Norma" 200g loads, which was a 200g projectile at 1250 fps. I also wanted to push a 180g XTP to 1350 fps. Supposedly, those initial Norma loads were why the FBI decided they were too hot, and thus S&W created the 40.

It took some doing, but I accomplished that, and the rounds are indeed punishing, surprisingly so. 1250 fps 200g in a 1911 platform is cooking, and smacks the hand around pretty good. I can see why LEO, and especially the FBI found this round was too uncontrollable for their agents.

Either way, mission accomplished there. I won't run a steady diet of those through that Ronin, they're really hard on the pistol.
 

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I would love to shoot one of those. The design is amazing, and it would be a neat collection piece...but I wonder if it shoots well

I won't sit here and claim that I've messed with a bunch of HK handguns, and many do not have great triggers.


Moving on...

I might have mentioned earlier that I have this current weird fixation on 10mm. I bought that SA ronin, and decided to mess with loads. I'll preface that I won't sit here and claim that I'm the most effective with a 1911 platform, as I prefer double stack polymer guns. With that said, I found 10mm hard to control (yeah, big surprise, a round that is notorious for being hard to control, is hard to control). Down near 40 S&W levels (950-1050 fps 180g), the gun is pretty tame, and I've been able to get somewhere in my ability to shoot the thing. Get much hotter than that, and the gun really bucks.

It was my drive to re-create the original "Norma" 200g loads, which was a 200g projectile at 1250 fps. I also wanted to push a 180g XTP to 1350 fps. Supposedly, those initial Norma loads were why the FBI decided they were too hot, and thus S&W created the 40.

It took some doing, but I accomplished that, and the rounds are indeed punishing, surprisingly so. 1250 fps 200g in a 1911 platform is cooking, and smacks the hand around pretty good. I can see why LEO, and especially the FBI found this round was too uncontrollable for their agents.

Either way, mission accomplished there. I won't run a steady diet of those through that Ronin, they're really hard on the pistol.
Springfield imported KUNA from Croatia. Rolling delayed blowback.
 

smokehouse

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Springfield imported KUNA from Croatia. Rolling delayed blowback.

That firearm, and pretty much anything even close to it, are now banned where I live.

I kinda had my eye on a Scorpion Evo, for years...but they banned those, too.
 

HellioN

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I might have in my possession a Beretta Tomcat now...
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HellioN

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That firearm, and pretty much anything even close to it, are now banned where I live.

I kinda had my eye on a Scorpion Evo, for years...but they banned those, too.
You're probably still better off than Colorado is right now.
 

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You're probably still better off than Colorado is right now.

The Illinois ban is bad (depending on your point of view), not sure how it stacks with Colorado...especially the one they just passed.

A few of my largest complaints about what Illinois did are:

Banning parts (and I do pretty much all gun parts, most sights just take a "will not ship to Illinois" policy). This makes maintenance on existing guns impossible without driving to another state and buying them in person.

The required registry of all pre-ban firearms and items. They made it a felony to have any banned items after their stated deadline. When I say "any", I mean it, even magazines and certain types of ammo. They registry is held and maintained by the state police, the same agency that issues and maintains the required Illinois "FOID" Firearm owner Identification.


Now they're coming after reloaders. Legislation has passed the house and is now in the senate to force anyone with reloading powder to hold an active explosives license. You'd also have to have one to even buy powder.

Illinois has been passing laws like an assembly line, as of recent.
 

HellioN

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The Illinois ban is bad (depending on your point of view), not sure how it stacks with Colorado...especially the one they just passed.

A few of my largest complaints about what Illinois did are:

Banning parts (and I do pretty much all gun parts, most sights just take a "will not ship to Illinois" policy). This makes maintenance on existing guns impossible without driving to another state and buying them in person.

The required registry of all pre-ban firearms and items. They made it a felony to have any banned items after their stated deadline. When I say "any", I mean it, even magazines and certain types of ammo. They registry is held and maintained by the state police, the same agency that issues and maintains the required Illinois "FOID" Firearm owner Identification.


Now they're coming after reloaders. Legislation has passed the house and is now in the senate to force anyone with reloading powder to hold an active explosives license. You'd also have to have one to even buy powder.

Illinois has been passing laws like an assembly line, as of recent.
Sounds unconstitutional man.
You guys should buy some better lobbyists up there in cook.
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Explosives license!? sounds draconian and that's coming from down under.
 

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It’s funny, CA used to be the worst state RE: gun laws but so many other states have skyrocketed past us - probably after seeing how CA’s various bans weren’t as all encompassing as the state intended them to be.
 
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