Have you ever bough an expensive game which turned out to be a conversion/boot?

[wonamik]

Have you ever bough an expensive game which turned out to be a conversion/boot?

And if so, where did you buy it and how has it effected you as a collector?
What are you doing to avoid it happening again?

 

[Kid Panda]

Don't buy expensive games. This really only happens with the Neo. Stop buying Neo games.

 

[aha2940]

Never happened with an expensive game, but I have MVS carts of KoF 2000, 2001 and Metal Slug 3 that are boots. Bought them and didn't check the boards, then the guy would not accept they were fake. Shame on him and stupid me. Now they're gonna stay with me because I can't sell them knowing they are boots.

 

[scrubsy]

Should we bring in the Aero Fighters 3 crowd to weigh in on this conversation?

 

[wonamik]

Don't buy expensive games. This really only happens with the Neo. Stop buying Neo games.

Nah they have started making LOTS of fakes for every system now. Rare NES titles like Snow bros, Panic restaurant, little samson and so on are popping up all over Ebay.
They are even selling kits to make your own fake games for NES and SEGA-CD

 

[2D_mastur]

Expensive to one is cheap to some.

For me, any game over $200 is expensive. I only have a couple games I'd pay over $200 for, and I don't think people would bother making a fake game that's in the $200-$300 range.

 

[Clark Griswold]

If I find a game on ebay, I always ask the seller if it's genuine and ask them to provide pics of the boards. I've been burned a few times, thankfully nothing expensive.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

I... Umm... Err... Yes, I've had this happen to me.

 

[werejag]

yeah i bought a puzzle bobble and thought it was legit till i looked at the boards a few years later and found other than pb roms on the board and al the pb chips where eproms.

 

[SNKorSWM]

Homecarts? Provenance, man.

MVS carts? Ask the seller to open up the cart and take a pic of the pcb.

 

[RAZO]

Only games I'll spend some more money on is Neo Aes games but I do have a limit. I only have two high price games (Japanese SSVS fixed and unfixed) and acquired them here at a decent price years ago before the conversion scene blew up. Buying and even selling high end neo games is a major risk now. You have buyers getting burned by conversions and you have sellers getting burned by buyers who claim legit carts are fake and filing paypal claims. Only way you could avoid this not happening is by not throwing down crazy money on a game.

 

[wonamik]

Is there any possible way with all technology to scan through the plastic of a homecart and see if its real or not? Or do we have to wait a couple of years for that to become available?

 

[andsuchisdeath]

Bootleg OP.

 

[wyo]

Is there any possible way with all technology to scan through the plastic of a homecart and see if its real or not? Or do we have to wait a couple of years for that to become available?

I believe that's part of 8man's authenticity service.

 

[wonamik]

I believe that's part of 8man's authenticity service.

So he has his own X-ray? Awesome, how much does he charge for that?

 

[cr8zykuban0]

luckily I've never purchased anything pricy that turned to be a bootleg, only bought one boot mvs game, the last blade but I only paid 5 bucks for it and it works great.

 

[bolts100]

Managed to buy a boot puzzle bobble. Replaced it with what I thought was a genuine cart that turned out to be a boot then took another 2 attempts after this to get a genuine cart.

Only other time i've had this is with a Zupapa cart a few years back.

 

[zaneiken]

The most expensive game I've bought that turned out to be a boot was Super Dodge Ball MVS. Seller said it was genuine. Promptly returned.

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

Don't buy expensive games. This really only happens with the Neo. Stop buying Neo games.

Stuff has been happening with SNES as well. I've seen Earthbound conversions, and mega man x3 JP version put into a US version cart+new label.

 

[xsq]

no.

 

[Nickrb]

Is there any possible way with all technology to scan through the plastic of a homecart and see if its real or not? Or do we have to wait a couple of years for that to become available?

Take a rock.

Smash home cart.

Oh look, your cart was legitimate.

 

[Dr Shroom]

yeah i bought a puzzle bobble and thought it was legit till i looked at the boards a few years later and found other than pb roms on the board and al the pb chips where eproms.

bootleg pro.

 

[scrubsy]

So he has his own X-ray? Awesome, how much does he charge for that?

It's called sarcasm. Do you send your games to 8man. He is a self proclaimed authority on authenticating.

 

[aha2940]

Homecarts? Provenance, man.

MVS carts? Ask the seller to open up the cart and take a pic of the pcb.

I have opened several AES carts using the blue tools shown in this auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Front...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item565ca136de they work fine, and do not mark the plastic at all. Only trick is you gotta be sure where the tabs are, so you apply the force in the right spots.

 

[aoiddr]

Not as of yet. But I'm scared to open up some of my Japanese MVS carts that I've gotten off YAJ to look. Best to not know.

That said, the handful of conversions/bootlegs that I do own, I intentionally bought them because they were a fraction of the price I would've paid for a legit cart.