NEO GEO AES+

kernow

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I was building a neo geo castle of nobility. Also that’s how it fit in the frame
"People have been asking me"
"As an AES collector"

Not with that ratty ass collection mate. State of some of your inserts, console scratched to fuck also
 

RAZO

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Im going to pass on this till I get more details. I think it's cool that they are bringing back the Neo but I doubt the build quality is going to be anything like the original. I'm thinking its going to be something like a evercade. For that I'll just stick to the Mister. No Fomo here.
 

Moob Butter

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No one is buying this expecting a 1:1 recreation of the AES on the inside coming out of a star trek replicator because we ain't pants on head retarded. The expectation is official SNK goods that work decently. That's it...

That is a problem. Being a Nerd != Actual Intelligence & != Common sense.

They shouldn't call it a 1-1 re creation mind when it's clearly going to be another Analogue type FPGA product.

You silly penis. It’s functional 1-1 mapped to the original product, not physically. The original chips aren’t made anymore. The designs are probably lost to time. We actually want quality of life improvements like HDMI. If you want OG hardware, you can still buy it, no one is stopping you.

For that I'll just stick to the Mister. No Fomo here.

No fuck that. Feel the fomo and go full homo.
 

kernow

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Im going to pass on this till I get more details. I think it's cool that they are bringing back the Neo but I doubt the build quality is going to be anything like the original. I'm thinking its going to be something like a evercade. For that I'll just stick to the Mister. No Fomo here.
Have you felt the build quality of the original console?
 

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Catoblepa

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Gotta love how quickly people can change their attitude, though... especially some youtubers.

AES carts cost thousands of dollars: "But hey folks, you don't need a real AES at all to enjoy Neo. Nowadays there are many great ways to experience Neo games, like in the Switch Neo Geo selection, the Neo Geo X, this portable piece of crap emulator machine that's got a SNK logo, MiSTer FPGA if you want total accuracy, absolutely impossible to tell apart... but even a Raspberry can give you all you need for your..."

Breaking news, AES carts suddenly cost 80 bucks: "Holy crap! The real hardware is here! Fuck emulation!!! This is HUGE!!!"
 

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Gotta love how quickly people can change their attitude, though... especially some youtubers.

AES carts cost thousands of dollars: "But hey folks, you don't need a real AES at all to enjoy Neo. Nowadays there are many great ways to experience Neo games, like in the Switch Neo Geo selection, the Neo Geo X, this portable piece of crap emulator machine that's got a SNK logo, MiSTer FPGA if you want total accuracy, absolutely impossible to tell apart... but even a Raspberry can give you all you need for your..."

Breaking news, AES carts suddenly cost 80 bucks: "Holy crap! The real hardware is here! Fuck emulation!!! This is HUGE!!!"

Turns out that a single game costing tens of thousands of real dollars kind of offsets the benefits of playing on real hardware, who'da thunk
 

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Turns out that a single game costing tens of thousands of real dollars kind of offsets the benefits of playing on real hardware, who'da thunk

Nah, I'm not criticizing at all the fact that they don't wanna spend thousands of dollars for playing on real hardware. That's just being sensible. Just making a point about the way emulation is presented, depending on the circumstances: if it's "totally indistinguishable" from the real thing and it can replace the original experience, as we heard for years and years, why do people make such a fuss about ASIC chips and real hardware now?
 

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Nah, I'm not criticizing at all the fact that they don't wanna spend thousands of dollars for playing on real hardware. That's just being sensible. Just making a point about the way emulation is presented, depending on the circumstances: if it's "totally indistinguishable" from the real thing and it can replace the original experience, as we heard for years and years, why do people make such a fuss about ASIC chips and real hardware now?

I think its a shit argument that “OH NO ASIC CANNOT BE UpDaTED” given the Mister core can play anything accurately.
 

venchia3

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I think the narrative is shifting from “emus are perfectly fine” to “ASIC is the way to go” just because since the reveal of the AES+ many folks that until yesterday were vomiting hate on collectors/owners of original (and expensive) hardware-software now they have a way of entering the club - so to speak - and all of a sudden collecting carts is becoming the way to go…

$90 for Plaion MOTW? Amazing, joke on all of you chumps that spent thousands on a copy of MOTW from 1999…this seems to be the point of many around the interwebz in the last few days, at least.
 

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I think the narrative is shifting from “emus are perfectly fine” to “ASIC is the way to go” just because since the reveal of the AES+ many folks that until yesterday were vomiting hate on collectors/owners of original (and expensive) hardware-software now they have a way of entering the club - so to speak - and all of a sudden collecting carts is becoming the way to go…

$90 for Plaion MOTW? Amazing, joke on all of you chumps that spent thousands on a copy of MOTW from 1999…this seems to be the point of many around the interwebz in the last few days, at least.

I think this is it. The value proposition has changed significantly with £80 carts (less in Japan).

We just need someone to release a hacked 161 in 1 that actually contains the full neo library which works on the AES+ so you can keep the rest of your new homefartz free of insertion marks… *sniffs paint*
 

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I think this is it. The value proposition has changed significantly with £80 carts (less in Japan).

We just need someone to release a hacked 161 in 1 that actually contains the full neo library which works on the AES+ so you can keep the rest of your new homefartz free of insertion marks… *sniffs paint*
I don't see why those vortex'd MVS carts wouldn't work on this with a converter tbh. (wasn't there an AES version? don't remember)

Another great thing this brings are decent modern MVS>AES converters, because interest will be at its peak after launch innit
 

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Life's little ironies... we might actually go back at the original reason of AES/MVS incompatibility - where people would prefer to use AES carts in their MVS cabs 'cause they're the cheaper solution.
you know you actually reminded me of something with the AES incompatibility talk. You know those AES systems with hacked up bioses so they could be used in MVS mode for coin-op?

Since this system has to expose its buses externally so it can talk to cartridges properly, I'm wondering if it will actually interface with a BIOS ROM in the PCB. It's not completely stupid since they know everyone wants Unibios, and they have no way of baking it into the ASIC without making some people in teh community buttmad about it. User upgradeable flash for this would be cool.
 

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you know you actually reminded me of something with the AES incompatibility talk. You know those AES systems with hacked up bioses so they could be used in MVS mode for coin-op?

Since this system has to expose its buses externally so it can talk to cartridges properly, I'm wondering if it will actually interface with a BIOS ROM in the PCB. It's not completely stupid since they know everyone wants Unibios, and they have no way of baking it into the ASIC without making some people in teh community buttmad about it. User upgradeable flash for this would be cool.
They may try to break flash cart compatibility with the bios. The other + systems don't work with flash carts, but it's simple there because those are emulators that dump the carts.
 
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