NEO GEO AES+

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What am I looking at here?

 

[pixeljunkie]

Oh SNK sure don't give a damn.
I was wondering about the Plaion plan.
Retrospectively, I've seen a lot of people missing the NeoGeoX even if it was shit, as it was just "less shit" than what followed.
A plain "AES mini" with good HDMI (I'm not even expecting composite output now) would be sufficient to please the crowds.
But it's not the model followed by the "consoles" Plaion have released so far.

Totally, but it's totally impossible to have a system that takes real carts. These all dump the rom to play in emulator and NG games are too large...will never happen. I'd love to be wrong, but I doubt I will be. The 2600+ and 7800+ both do this.

 

[madpossum]

Yeah, the reaction is what I expected. I just don't see any market for whatever this thing could be. The cheapo emulation markert is already saturated with devices and a high end device that could take carts would have no audience, anyone who can afford to buy home carts is just going to buy original hardware with a nice scaler or crt.

 

[Takumaji]

a high end device that could take carts would have no audience

What about the systems made by Analogue (NT, 3D, etc.)? I don't know whether they are successful or not but it seems to me there is a market for high-end (or at least better-quality) stuff.

An Analogue Neo that would play homecarts and MVS carts would prolly cost more than a real one and then some but it would come with HDMI already built in + RGB and some more nifty extras that would make it a convenient all-in-one solution for the, uhm, discerning Neo gamer (read, ppl like us with either too much money or a some loose screws).

 

[Neo Alec]

Yeah, the reaction is what I expected. I just don't see any market for whatever this thing could be. The cheapo emulation markert is already saturated with devices and a high end device that could take carts would have no audience, anyone who can afford to buy home carts is just going to buy original hardware with a nice scaler or crt.

What about the systems made by Analogue (NT, 3D, etc.)? I don't know whether they are successful or not but it seems to me there is a market for high-end (or at least better-quality) stuff.

An Analogue Neo that would play homecarts and MVS carts would prolly cost more than a real one and then some but it would come with HDMI already built in + RGB and some more nifty extras that would make it a convenient all-in-one solution for the, uhm, discerning Neo gamer (read, ppl like us with either too much money or a some loose screws).

Need to ask on Facebook or something. Most here will never admit to wanting one, but there are plenty of goobs out there who will buy either an Analogue FPGA AES or an AES+ emulation box.

There hasn't been an AES-shaped emulation device yet (that isn't a dock for a portable) and there's a hunger for it.

 

[madpossum]

If it could play BOTH AES and MVS carts, had DB15 and USB ports, memory card slot, FPGA, and HDMI out? That would be an interesting product but your right, probably more expensive than just having a separate AES and MVS.

 

[pixeljunkie]

What about the systems made by Analogue (NT, 3D, etc.)? I don't know whether they are successful or not but it seems to me there is a market for high-end (or at least better-quality) stuff.

An Analogue Neo that would play homecarts and MVS carts would prolly cost more than a real one and then some but it would come with HDMI already built in + RGB and some more nifty extras that would make it a convenient all-in-one solution for the, uhm, discerning Neo gamer (read, ppl like us with either too much money or a some loose screws).

Need to ask on Facebook or something. Most here will never admit to wanting one, but there are plenty of goobs out there who will buy either an Analogue FPGA AES or an AES+ emulation box.

There hasn't been an AES-shaped emulation device yet (that isn't a dock for a portable) and there's a hunger for it.

I might buy one. Goob gonna' goob.

As far as an ANALogue device. Nah. Those guys can eat a dick. Also, android emu devices are great now, and you can run ahead a couple frames and hit the same performance as FPGA. Not saying FPGA isn't superior, but its so negligible at this point who cares?

 

[MSL]

So question to everyone here, if this thing came out and it was quality emulation (think FPGA and not Neo Geo X), was well made, looked like an AES, had quality upscaling through HDMI for modern TVs, and played original carts for let's say $200, would anyone here buy it? Maybe to save wear and tear on your original AES? I have MVS carts so it wouldn't be for me regardless. I wouldn't buy it over getting a real AES to get into home carts.

If it has HDMI and plays AES cartridges, I'd likely buy it regardless of price.

 

[Neo Alec]

If it has HDMI and plays AES cartridges, I'd likely buy it regardless of price.

Don't waste one of your allotted console slots on this shit.

 

[wyo]

If the console has multiple slots does that mean you can get 10 games per slot?

 

[MSL]

Don't waste one of your allotted console slots on this shit.

I have NES Classic, SNES Classic, Genesis Mini, Genesis Mini 2, and TurboGrafx-16 Mini and don't count them as part of my ten consoles. I had Neo Geo X as well, but got rid of it when NEOGEO Super Pocket came out.

If it has HDMI and built-in games, I'll just include it with my mini console collection.

If it only plays carts and has no games built-in, I guess I'll just make a rule that I can have more than one of the same platform. I'd been thinking a out getting another Switch to put in the bedroom anyway.

 

[Tarma]

Do you like classic mini pies?

I bet you do, you tub of lard.

 

[NeoSeeD]

From the reviews that I've seen, the 2600+ and 7800+ systems take forever to dump Atari games that range in kilobytes. Retron systems take a while for other 8 & 16-bit consoles, so I can only imagine how long a Neo game would take.

Emulation consoles can make good save dumpers, but there's no need for that on the Neo with memory cards. Also, if they don't play teh ROMz, that would severely limit their customer base. Look at the recent Retron GX (Turbografx). It doesn't play ROMZ and Turbo games are pretty rare and expensive.

 

[pixeljunkie]

From the reviews that I've seen, the 2600+ and 7800+ systems take forever to dump Atari games that range in kilobytes. Retron systems take a while for other 8 & 16-bit consoles, so I can only imagine how long a Neo game would take.

Emulation consoles can make good save dumpers, but there's no need for that on the Neo with memory cards. Also, if they don't play teh ROMz, that would severely limit their customer base. Look at the recent Retron GX (Turbografx). It doesn't play ROMZ and Turbo games are pretty rare and expensive.

I also would wager the license agreements for a mini console include some sort of encryption and INability to play teh romz. Its all gay and stupid and retarded.

 

[NeoCverA]

Oh SNK sure don't give a damn.
I was wondering about the Plaion plan.
Retrospectively, I've seen a lot of people missing the NeoGeoX even if it was shit, as it was just "less shit" than what followed.
A plain "AES mini" with good HDMI (I'm not even expecting composite output now) would be sufficient to please the crowds.
But it's not the model followed by the "consoles" Plaion have released so far.

SNK dishes out licenses but they are picky about what you do with them. They also need to approve hardware designs, branding etc.

They have yet to grant a hardware manufacturer online capabilities.

 

[Takumaji]

I might buy one. Goob gonna' goob.

As far as an ANALogue device. Nah. Those guys can eat a dick. Also, android emu devices are great now, and you can run ahead a couple frames and hit the same performance as FPGA. Not saying FPGA isn't superior, but its so negligible at this point who cares?

FPGA looks like the best choice if you want to recreate more complex systems like certain computers with lots of non-standard hardware and functions where timing between the active parts is essential or large amounts of data have to be read and processed in a quick and precise way.

However, emu has come a long way, it's absolutely fine in most cases and has been for ages. With the beginning of the Pentium era when I bought a P90-based system as an early adopter, the teething probs of emu were more or less over as far as I was concerned. Sure, there still was lots of work to do but the first wave of late-70s-to-mid-80s arcade games I was after ran just fine on my new rig, it was mad fun finding ROMs on BBSs, sometimes even dialup ones, newsgroups, ftp sites, etc., and slowly building your own virtual arcade where you could play all the good shit whenever you wanted.

About Analogue, I don't know much about them, just see their pricey stuff popping up every now and then. Currently, there's an offer for a new/unopened Analogue NT Mini Noir V2 on a local classifieds site for 1400 Eurobucks, that's a lot of dough for playing NES games, eh. Goes to show some people go the extra mile (and spend the extra buck) to get their gaming fix so a Neo+ with the features I've mentioned above might seem feasible as a niche product.

 

[madpossum]

All this speculation over an ESRB rating, we probably all just wasted our time and it will turn out to be nothing

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

We are here to waste time

 

[Neo Alec]

All this speculation over an ESRB rating, we probably all just wasted our time and it will turn out to be nothing

Yeeeeppp. It's called "News and Rumors" for a reason.

 

[dollfucker+]

If it has HDMI and plays AES cartridges, I'd likely buy it regardless of price.

it's not quite the radically enhanced interface...but...

 

[kernow]

All this speculation over an ESRB rating, we probably all just wasted our time and it will turn out to be nothing

You're probably wasting your time and will turn out to be nothing

 

[Dr Shroom]

remember when we had a neo geo x board and people just posted there to shit on it? good times.

 

[lithy]

More info here

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[Lastblade]

The re-release of the 10 carts are $90 each?!? Holy moly.

 

[madpossum]

That's actually really cool. Legit hardware with no FPGA or emulation? Wired and wireless sticks, memory card with no battery, re-releases of some of the best and most expensive games? HDMI 1080p. If it really plays exactly like original hardware with no additional lag I'm impressed.

I wonder if MVS converters would work on it?