Several dead in shooting in Munich shopping mall

[Pasky]

There's a reason people call it Londonistan now.

 

[Takumaji]

I thought he'd call some friends to get the show going, instead he calls the police.

 

[norton9478]

Erdogan is preparing to turn his country into an even shittier version of the Iran...islamic revolution lite. And the turks love that shit, it's amazing.

That is just crazy talk.

 

[oliverclaude]

That is just crazy talk.

Agreed, as long as the US-Government can count on Turkey's NATO-membership, this will be the official statement.

 

[norton9478]

I just find it funny that the right wing here that complains about "Secular progressives" are so frightened by Turkey slightly rolling back it's vehement secularism.

In god we trust right?

 

[Kristian Meller]

Nah, only the kind of gawd the American right wing likes.

 

[evil wasabi]

That is just crazy talk.

Stop trolling.

 

[evil wasabi]

Well, for a start, only one French paper made the decision to pixel out the faces of the terrorists and don't print their names so far. The reasoning behind is that they don't want to provide them with a free channel for their propaganda. Specially for young Muslims who radicalize themselves, publicity is part of the "fun", but ISIS themselves also place quite some importance on it. After all, their videos managed to attract a lot of new "soldiers" so they have a point there.

However, I'm against censorship of any form or shape so I hope the rest of the media don't follow their example. Know your enemy.

Taking away their names removes the public's ability to fact check. My issue in the Munich shooter case is the refusal to print the name of the terrorist, while instead being expected to accept at the mass media's word that he's an Iranian, while ignoring that this is the first instance of an Iranian committing such a crime.

 

[galfordo]

Taking away their names removes the public's ability to fact check. My issue in the Munich shooter case is the refusal to print the name of the terrorist, while instead being expected to accept at the mass media's word that he's an Iranian, while ignoring that this is the first instance of an Iranian committing such a crime.

Europe is in a rather bizarre place these days. Not sure what exactly sent their leadership down this dark path, but there appears to be a very active government element to whose mission is to suppress the facts, and to convince the public that down is up, black is white, etc. through pure repetition of a doctrine that is obviously false and designed to mislead and confuse. It's a scary place, and I'm beyond ecstatic that Britain told them to choke on a dick.

 

[oliverclaude]

My issue in the Munich shooter case is the refusal to print the name of the terrorist, ...

Officially the Munich shooter case is not a terrorist attack and the perpetrator not a terrorist, but a PRA (person running amok) with possible racist background, since all of his victims had migrant backgrounds.

Ali David S. hated Turks & Arabs, seeing himself probably as Persian, Median, Sogdian, Parthian etc. He had two citizenships (German and Iranian). Among his listed inspirations were other amok runs such as Winnenden, a German edition of Peter Langman's book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters & an adoration for Anders Behring Breivik.

He got his 9mm Glock 17 from the Darknet, seller unknown. It was a re-modified theater weapon with a possible Slovakian background.

So far the mainstream/government pov & terminology.

 

[evil wasabi]

Officially the Munich shooter case is not a terrorist attack and the perpetrator not a terrorist, but a PRA (person running amok) with possible racist background, since all of his victims had migrant backgrounds.

Ali David S. hated Turks & Arabs, seeing himself probably as Persian, Median, Sogdian, Parthian etc. He had two citizenships (German and Iranian). Among his listed inspirations were other amok runs such as Winnenden, a German edition of Peter Langman's book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters & an adoration for Anders Behring Breivik.

He got his 9mm Glock 17 from the Darknet, seller unknown. It was a re-modified theater weapon with a possible Slovakian background.

So far the mainstream/government pov & terminology.

Thanks. Obviously this still leaves a lot of holes and I doubt the German govt cares if someone in the US asks questions that they'll never answer, but this is a first for Iranians, and a wet dream for genocidal leaders like Clinton.

 

[Kristian Meller]

Europe is in a rather bizarre place these days.

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Have you heard of that Trump guy and how many people seem to want to vote for him? That is the very definition of bizarre.

 

[galfordo]

This is a first for Iranians, and a wet dream for genocidal leaders like Clinton.

Yep, because for propagandists, the exception is always used to make the rule(s).

 

[Kristian Meller]

Not sure what exactly sent their leadership down this dark path, but there appears to be a very active government element to whose mission is to suppress the facts, and to convince the public that down is up, black is white, etc. through pure repetition of a doctrine that is obviously false and designed to mislead and confuse.

Again, you're describing your own country. Trump will be the first fully post-factual president, and fucked up shit is going to happen.

 

[galfordo]

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Have you heard of that Trump guy and how many people seem to want to vote for him? That is the very definition of bizarre.

How does it feel to not have to worry about critical thinking, since you've obviously made up your mind to let others do that for you?

Must be liberating.

 

[evil wasabi]

Liberating rage.

 

[DNSDies]

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Have you heard of that Trump guy and how many people seem to want to vote for him? That is the very definition of bizarre.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

 

[oliverclaude]

Thanks. Obviously this still leaves a lot of holes and I doubt the German govt cares if someone in the US asks questions that they'll never answer, ...

Ansolutely. You don't just get your weapon of choice from the Darknet in a Hot'n'Ready fashion. This could just be Guerilla2.0 for terrorists: to sought out & supply emotionally instable at will, no matter what their factual motivation might be, as long as they get their target indicators right. Machiavellian policies meet terrorism.

...a wet dream for genocidal leaders like Clinton.

The ghosts of Endloesung continue to haunt German policy just as the ghosts of Somalia did Clinton, when he ordered Rwanda. Or so the tailored Potomac & Spree folklore goes...

 

[bloodycelt]

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Another fun quote:

axe-age, sword-age--
sundered are shields--
wind-age, wolf-age,
ere the world crumbles
will the spear of no man
spare the other.

 

[Pasky]

Again, you're describing your own country. Trump will be the first fully post-factual president, and fucked up shit is going to happen.

It's funny hearing this from someone who lives on a continent where rapists are protected and murders are seen as not being the fault of the murderer but rather that they came from a war zone and you should be understanding of that. In the meantime you cry and moan about someone who hasn't done anything yet and isn't even elected.

So basically you're saying the USA is nuts because someone is popular and gaining steam (who still hasn't done anything by the way) meanwhile it's Hunky Dory in Europe where actual shit is going down, elected government officials are victim blaming and refuse to improve on any of the policies.

Whatever you say, shitlord.

 

[Fuzzytaco]

It's funny hearing this from someone who lives on a continent where rapists are protected and murders are seen as not being the fault of the murderer but rather that they came from a war zone and you should be understanding of that. In the meantime you cry and moan about someone who hasn't done anything yet and isn't even elected.

So basically you're saying the USA is nuts because someone is popular and gaining steam (who still hasn't done anything by the way) meanwhile it's Hunky Dory in Europe where actual shit is going down, elected government officials are victim blaming and refuse to improve on any of the policies.

Whatever you say, shitlord.

You're forgetting that he comes from Scandinavia. The land of 21 year prison sentences for mass murdererswho kill 71 people (mostly children), and then bitch about how they only have a PS2 with which to kill time in their dorm room.

 

[Kristian Meller]

 

[Dr Shroom]

Cool story, except Breivik killed for political reasons.

 

[Kristian Meller]

He was very, very much inspired by crusaders. Just look up his manifesto. Still turrrism anyway.

 

[LWK]

Kristian, what do you believe Islam is?