Thought Cassettes were useless? Apparently not

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http://gizmodo.com/sony-crams-3-700...source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Sony Crams 3,700 Blu-Rays' Worth of Storage in a Single Cassette Tape

Stupid hipster 80s fetishism notwithstanding, cassette tapes don't get much love. That's a shame, because magnetic tape is still a surprisingly robust way to back up data. Especially now: Sony just unveiled tape that holds a whopping 148 GB per square inch, meaning a cassette could hold 185 TB of data. Prepare for the mixtape to end all mixtapes.

Sony's technique, which will be discussed at today's International Magnetics Conference in Dresden, uses a vacuum-forming technique called sputter deposition to create a layer of magnetic crystals by shooting argon ions at a polymer film substrate. The crystals, measuring just 7.7 nanometers on average, pack together more densely than any other previous method.

The result: three Blu-Rays' worth of data can fit on one square inch of Sony's new wonder-tape.

Naturally, that kind of memory isn't going to go in the cassette deck on your ancient boom box any time soon. Sony developed the technology for long-term, industrial-sized data backup, a field where tape's slow write times and the time it takes to scroll through yards and yards of tape to find a single file aren't crippling problems.

Sony wouldn't say when or if this new type of tape is expected to hit the market, but when it does, it'll be a victory for the old school.

Not sure why this would come to market as I don't think people will be interested considering our cloud based future, but the technology is interesting. Pointless interesting technology seems to be Sony's jam.

Edit here is a link to far less condescending article
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27282732
 
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Tape backup is still used all the time for commercial purposes, it never really went away.
 

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That's freakin cool as hell.
 

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This technology is pointlessly interesting lol

With this tech you can back up all of human history on a few cassete tapes or one big vhs/betamax size tape.
 
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Tape backup is still used all the time for commercial purposes, it never really went away.

Interesting. It alludes to i in the article, but I didn't realize it was still used in that capacity, or that it was even useful in that capacity versus mass harddrives.
 

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What an idiotically worded article "80s hipster fetishism notwithstanding" Cassettes have been constantly released in metal/punk/hardcore/noise, etc... they never went anywhere. I'd wager that the author is some moron who thinks that Spotify is a great thing.
 

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That's pretty cool. Like they say in the article, it would be useful in industrial settings. Maybe we'll see more huge reel-to-reel set ups in the future, like Tron. I doubt it, but it would be kind of cool.
 

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Who ever thought cassettes were useless? That's the problem with the under 25 crowd writing tech articles. :oh_no:

Audio cassettes were the first portable music format. And again it was Sony on the forefront with the original walkman.
 

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So MT was a "80's hipster" ?

Fucker was rocking Pioneer tape decks way ahead of any of those PBR-drinking mongos.
 

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Floppy was here

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Tape is a fogot
 

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Just because tapes seem outdated to the average guy who has no clue on how IT really works doesn't mean they actually are. Some companies have to work with or produce such massive amounts of data on a daily basis that cloud backups or stuff like that is not an option. Clever (read, distributed) server farm design can minimize the problems of outages and data loss to some extend but nothing beats having a complete copy of your stuff on tape. Of course the key here is to choose quality tapes and decent drives, set up a proper backup (and most importantly VERIFY) system and store the tapes in air-conditioned safes on different locations, a bunch of rotten old DAT tapes scattered across the administrator's desk is not the way to go.

This is where most of the problems with tapes and data backup as a whole come from, there still are too many admins out there who play Russian Roulette with their system and give a rat's ass on proper backup strategies... ...until the day their ever-so-important logon server crashes. I've seen companies go bankrupt because of a massive data loss and zero useable backups. Sure, a good backup strategy costs a lot of money but when something really bad happens, it pays off in the end.

Oh, and about that 80s hipster bullshit, a lot of music studios still use magnetic reel-to-reel tape machines for recording purposes. Of course they're not comparable to the good ol' cassette tapes we all used back in the day (well, most of us old geezers anyway) but the basics are the same. The answer lies in this thing called tape saturation which will give many recordings that extra punch that is almost impossible to obtain by digital means. Tape saturation is an effect of good-quality magnetic tapes, if you record something on a large-format tape and crank the gain up, the result is not clipping as in most digital systems but a warm overdrive, a sort of natural compression that leads to a fat and in-your-face sound.
 

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Cool. I want physical storage to be more popular consumer-wise. I'd use MO Disks and shit like that instead of the cloud etc.
 

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The production studios where I work still use tape in their multi-format recording set up.

It's usually the most reliable recording format, since all of the other digital methods have a tendency to crash.
 

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And I would totally buy the consumer version of this tech.

Being able to store 100+ TB in a single, relatively compact source would be fucking amazing.
 

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And I would totally buy the consumer version of this tech.

Being able to store 100+ TB in a single, relatively compact source would be fucking amazing.

I'm not sure if "fucking amazing" is what I'd call it. I mean, at the end of the day, we're talking about cramming it with porn and cartoons. At least for most people.
 

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And I would totally buy the consumer version of this tech.



Being able to store 100+ TB in a single, relatively compact source would be fucking amazing.


It also seems like this storage method would be significantly less prone to failure than other current methods (RAID, external hd's, etc).

If they could make it competitively priced (it's tape. It can't be that expensive) and setup a system that automatically performs daily backups, id also be very interested.

I once disrupted the raid array on my PC and lost everything. Thankfully it was just a gaming rig, but it was a lot of work getting it back up again.
 

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I think the real reason there isn't any tape drive storage available for the average consumer is the slow read/write times. It would be pretty inconvenient, IMO. Especially since we're used to things like USB 3, FireWire 800, etc. I'll take read/write time over sheer capacity any day of the week.
 

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And I would totally buy the consumer version of this tech.

Being able to store 100+ TB in a single, relatively compact source would be fucking amazing.

In my childish mind I imagine a 100+ TB needing to be respooled.

"Hold on let me grab a #2 pencil my porn cassette just fucked up"
 
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