Tonight’s debate

[roker]

We've had increasingly frequent and irrefutable evidence of Biden's diminishing mental faculties over the past few years.

I gave you shit about it, but just know, it's more about being anti-Trump than pro-Biden. We don't have much of an alternative and this election is probably the worst. I think after Trump-mania blows over all the people that voted for him will act like they did with GWB and say, "oh, we didn't know at the time, but it's time to move forward" or some shit like that.

The DNC should have primaried him, but the money was too good. Can't take Biden out of the equation when that super pac money is flowing in so easy.

Win or lose, Trump will complain about the election results.

win

or

lose

 

[HellioN]

Will Trump be,

1. Only 45
2. 45 and 47
3. 45 and 48

Place your bets now.

 

[Xavier]

Will Trump be,

1. Only 45
2. 45 and 47
3. 45 and 48

Place your bets now.

He's not going to be 48, all he eats is fast food
His heart beats KFC grease, it's a miracle he's lived this long
He's got some sort of troll deal with Satan that he feeds on and lives off people talking about him

 

[BeefJerky]

His heart beats KFC grease, it's a miracle he's lived this long
He's got some sort of troll deal with Satan that he feeds on and lives off people talking about him

Funny, sounds like you're describing yourself.

https://www.neo-geo.com/forums/index.php?threads/im-banned-have-a-restraining-order-from-kfc-on-state-blvd-fort-wayne.265504/

 

[Taiso]

The DNC should have primaried him, but the money was too good. Can't take Biden out of the equation when that super pac money is flowing in so easy.

And running the government by proxy means none of the people actually calling the shots have to take responsible when shit goes south. And when he loses the election, they have an excuse ready to go because you know, you KNOW, they'll eventually confess to all the shit we've been saying for months: he was too old, too feeble, too mentally disabled to be the president.

But they won't say it right away. They'll act like they knew all along and gaslight us about it a year or two later. Typical uniparty patterns of behavior.

 

[Neo Alec]

TDS has gripped them to such a degree they think that they are on the right side of history. whatever.

Yeah, TDS really has gripped the liberals again ever since Jon Stewart came back to TDS on Mondays. Us aging gen X'ers have our guiding light in the darkness back.

 

[Takumaji]

It's just that the 2A Cucks that think 'FiGhTiNg TyRrAnNy!' is their reason for owning guns had their chance.

You want to fight tyrrany? Well...now's the time, faggots. Has been for decades.

Yeah. That's what I thought.

Guns can be helpful but the idea of normal people fighting it out against trained soldiers, special units, police and other armed forces a gov that has become tyrannic would be able to throw at them is ludicrous at best.

 

[Lagduf]

Guns can be helpful but the idea of normal people fighting it out against trained soldiers, special units, police and other armed forces a gov that has become tyrannic would be able to throw at them is ludicrous at best.

Worked fine in Vietnam and Afghanistan (twice!)

But point taken.

 

[SouthtownKid]

That's also why calling the Jan 6 riot an attempted coup or insurrection is so silly. Our dumb Fox news-watching uncles and aunts weren't capable of anything even if they'd brought guns, which they didn't. No coup can occur without the support and participation of at least a large portion of our military. Which was never in the minds of anyone claiming to be "scared" or even the most delusional protesters.

 

[Takumaji]

Worked fine in Vietnam and Afghanistan (twice!)

But point taken.

It worked in Vietnam and Afghanistan because in both cases, paramilitary units ("the people") had support from outside, while under conditions of a national armed upheaval, the enemy (the state) would be in total control of infrastructure, communications and means of production right from the start, which means that militias would have to cope with what weapons and supplies they have or maybe could aqcuire in limited quantities by using force (raids against depots, etc.). An upheaval like that would probably end after a week coz no mo' ammo.

 

[Taiso]

Guns can be helpful but the idea of normal people fighting it out against trained soldiers, special units, police and other armed forces a gov that has become tyrannic would be able to throw at them is ludicrous at best.

Yep. But I'm not the one claiming that I need to own a gun to fight against an oppressive government.

As I said, it's just a lie the 2A cucks tell themselves to feel better about their reasons for wanting to own guns.

I'd only ever want to own one for home defense and, if I were a hunter, to hunt in season. At 53 and having only ever seen real guns with my own eyes on the waists of law enforcement officers, I'm pretty sure I'm good.

 

[lithy]

He's not going to be 48, all he eats is fast food
His heart beats KFC grease, it's a miracle he's lived this long
He's got some sort of troll deal with Satan that he feeds on and lives off people talking about him

Totally unsurprising that you don't understand the implication of "45 and 48".

Hint: It doesn't mean Trump being elected again in 2028.

 

[Takumaji]

Yep. But I'm not the one claiming that I need to own a gun to fight against an oppressive government.

As I said, it's just a lie the 2A cucks tell themselves to feel better about their reasons for wanting to own guns.

I'd only ever want to own one for home defense and, if I were a hunter, to hunt in season. At 53 and having only ever seen real guns with my own eyes on the waists of law enforcement officers, I'm pretty sure I'm good.

I don't dare to comment on the finer details of the 2nd Amendment, but yeah, I guess it comes in handy for some people as a justification for what they do, even if it doesn't make much sense at all.

No problem on my side with owning guns, if people want to have them and the law says go, it's all good. They are useable for home defense and hunting as you said, but that's about it.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Afghanistan (twice!)

Not the type to wish for war, but I'm kind of hoping they pull off a trifecta by also embarrassing China if their relations fall apart.

 

[Taiso]

I don't dare to comment on the finer details of the 2nd Amendment, but yeah, I guess it comes in handy for some people as a justification for what they do, even if it doesn't make much sense at all.

No problem on my side with owning guns, if people want to have them and the law says go, it's all good. They are useable for home defense and hunting as you said, but that's about it.

Sir, you have cache around here and we know you are intelligent. Opine as you wish on any political matter, foreign or domestic. As far as I'm concerned, if someone says 'You aren't American, what do you know?', then they are the ones that should probably show some restraint when it comes to these sorts of things.

I'm not English, German or French, but I'd wager I know a lot more about European medieval history than a lot of people actuallty living in those parts. They don't get to play their citizenship card as a method of primacy.

 

[roker]

That's also why calling the Jan 6 riot an attempted coup or insurrection is so silly. Our dumb Fox news-watching uncles and aunts weren't capable of anything even if they'd brought guns, which they didn't. No coup can occur without the support and participation of at least a large portion of our military. Which was never in the minds of anyone claiming to be "scared" or even the most delusional protesters.

Regardless, it made a mockery of our government and our people and it was on the INTERNATIONAL stage. Ex-prez numb nuts encouraged it and cried the entire time while wetting his pants because he lost an election. I can't look past that. I will never look past that. I think if he's elected we'll see more of that shit.

 

[ken jeong ugh]

Yeah, TDS really has gripped the liberals again ever since Jon Stewart came back to TDS on Mondays. Us aging gen X'ers have our guiding light in the darkness back.

it is if you really think trump legitimately threatens democracy. mass pearl clutching.

 

[HellioN]

Government is meant to be both mocked and ridiculed.

 

[Taiso]

Government is meant to be both mocked and ridiculed.

Absolutely.

The most American thing you can do is question authority. Mockery and ridicule are two methods by which to do that.

This country was founded on revolution against tyrannical rule. For the right to self govern.

Anybody that thinks America is somehow above rebellion now, that the government has somehow 'figured it out', is being just as myopic as the people that think Trump is America's way forward.

It's about more than voting, which is just a way to keep us in our stalls. Voting only works as a means of change when the deep state oligarchy isn't actively working against its people. When the government has turned on its people, all the while pretending to be on their side, the law is their enemy, not their friend.

I recently saw a poll, maybe a few years back, where over 60 percent of the people polled believed it's never a good idea to rebel against your government.

That is an intellectually captured people.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Regardless, it made a mockery of our government and our people and it was on the INTERNATIONAL stage.

Our government is already a mockery. More of a mockery if we're openly shown to allow it to be run by nameless, unelected people from the shadows. Everybody who hates Trump will vote for anyone the democrats run. It does not have to be Biden. Not one single person alive is going to say, oh well if they don't run Biden, I guess I'll vote for Trump. That doesn't exist. People didn't vote for Biden in 2020 because they loved him. They voted for him because he wasn't Trump. And you know who else isn't Trump? Every other person on the entire planet. I mean, please don't let it be Newsom. But anyone else.

And the money for Biden is getting nervous and pulling out. That's been happening literally since the evening after the debate. Biden refusing to pull out only strengthens Trump's chances.

 

[StevenK]

I think the US was actually downgraded from 'full democracy' to 'flawed democracy' for the first time this year in the Economist democracy rankings.

Have I looked into what that really means? No.
Is it likely meaningless crap? Yes.
Did I mention it because I'm a bitch?

Oh yes.

 

[SML]

We also shouldn't be swapping out all the joint chiefs of staff on day one of a new administration, right? What are we replacing the administrative state with?

The alternative that we seem to be working toward is a unitary executive unbound by law. Is that better?

 

[ken jeong ugh]

all I'm saying is that whether Biden or Trump wins, nothing will noticeably change. if you think trump has some sort of unilateral power that can unseat the government and power players in its current state, you are naive and are falling victim to extreme gaslighting. trump is a nobody. I am a political nihilist.

 

[Neo Alec]

all I'm saying is that whether Biden or Trump wins, nothing will noticeably change. if you think trump has some sort of unilateral power that can unseat the government and power players in its current state, you are naive and are falling victim to extreme gaslighting. trump is a nobody. I am a political nihilist.

This isn't a hypothetical. It's an executive order that already happened last time:

Trump’s Schedule F plan, explained

In October 2020, the Trump Administration issued an executive order called Schedule F that would have stripped protections from civil servants perceived as disloyal.

protectdemocracy.org

 

[ken jeong ugh]

This isn't a hypothetical. It's an executive order that already happened last time:

Trump’s Schedule F plan, explained

In October 2020, the Trump Administration issued an executive order called Schedule F that would have stripped protections from civil servants perceived as disloyal.

protectdemocracy.org

maybe i missed something, but what does this have to do with trump becoming a lifetime dictator and killing democracy? this may be a bit more thorough or over-reaching...but most presidencies/change of leadership results in turnover of people that don't align with the new "leader"