Why do you like NEO GEO so much?

joe8

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Then why are you here, if you don't like the Neo Geo?

I've been wondering this about myself.
I remember the first time I saw an AES.it was set up as a store demo. Coolest thing ever. Believe it was the year it came out. So I was 8 or 9.
Do I like the nostalgic novelty of being able to acquire something from my childhood that I couldn't have back then? Is that more important than the actual game selection? Or do I really like the game selection? Or, is it just awesowm to be able to buy it now that I'm an adult and can just cuz I feel like it.

Both? Don't know...

Probably all of the above.
A lot of people want things that (or were) seen as unattainable, or just for the elite or the rich. I like how the Neo is basically the same hardware as the arcade. I also get other things that are pro gear, as they are often better value than the consumer products, and don't have all the useless "features" the consumer-grade things have.
Some of the Neo games are good, some are ones that Neo fans might like but others wouldn't, and some are just games you want to like, but can't (like The Super Spy).

I don't understand how you could play games in the 90s and not even hear of the Neo Geo.

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He is from Belgium. If you lived in a country that didn't officially have the Neo Geo released there, and you didn't read the imported American/British magazines (EGM, etc), you might not know about it. People didn't really have the internet in the (early) 90s. Not sure if the Neo Geo was really released that much in Europe.
 
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im sure there are a lot more people who gamed in the 90s who never heard of the neo than you think. A lot of gamers i know who gamed in the 90s know little or nothing about the neo.

Everyone I knew back then at least knew what it was. The fact that I informed those that didn't is besides the point.
 

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oh xsq, why you gotta be so pathetic, up the game brother, I know you have it in you but this...this is just dumb, is not even sad, just plain dumb.
1: you think I don't know my post was bad? That's what the gif was for. :rolleyes:
2: Like your initial stab at me was smart... why would I spend time on a reply to such low quality trolling.
 

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lol, just the fact that you're here sniffing around goes to show otherwise. I'm not trolling, I'm being honest, I don't understand why you insist on being a fucken salmon but hey, have a good time!

Edit: Back on topic.

When I finally got my hands on the Neo home console I was very happy but deep down I was never satisfied with the results, the arcades I played before it was a much better experience. It still is, some people just get hyped over the prestige, I get hyped over the games.

Also, Arcade > Console. Yes there are pros and cons to both but when it's all said and done; I rather play arcade games on an arcade over a console.
 
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lol, just the fact that you're here sniffing around goes to show otherwise. I'm not trolling, I'm being honest, I don't understand why you insist on being a fucken salmon but hey, have a good time!

Edit: Back on topic.

When I finally got my hands on the Neo home console I was very happy but deep down I was never satisfied with the results, the arcades I played before it was a much better experience. It still is, some people just get hyped over the prestige, I get hyped over the games.

Also, Arcade > Console. Yes there are pros and cons to both but when it's all said and done; I rather play arcade games on an arcade over a console.
The Neo Geo was never actually the same experience as playing the game at the arcade. The joystick and buttons weren't as good, and it was usually played on monitors that weren't RGB. The AES wasn't necessarily intended to be as good as the MVS, otherwise everybody would play games on their AES, and nobody would play on MVS, and the AES hardware would have cost more as well. There were compromises on AES hardware, but not the software.
 
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I feel your statement would be true if the cartridge slots were the same on both.
 

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lol, just the fact that you're here sniffing around goes to show otherwise. I'm not trolling, I'm being honest, I don't understand why you insist on being a fucken salmon but hey, have a good time!
I'm not sniffing around, just reading the forums like I do often. Get over yourself.
If we're being honest: I don't understand what issue you have with my posts, but what we're doing here got boring and embarrassing for both of us. If you want to continue let's take it to PMs and not further derail this thread. I admit I started it and my first post here was uncalled for and unnecessary. I don't know what a salmon is and I'm not gonna spend more time googleing it (seems to be pretty universal, I'm just gonna translate it as "pussy").



On topic: It is boring. But yeah arcade>home, cab>console. Neo has awesome releases that I like for the gameplay, music and art - the library is fighter heavy which is a good thing because I like that genre a lot (never really got into shmups). You don't need to play them all to have a great time, just pick some from the main series and a couple of the underdogs - that'll keep you going for a long time. Lots of other gems to be discovered (Drift Out, NTM, Cup98, ...)

Also: the Neo was very obscure in 90s around where I grew up (Germany, lower Rhine region). You saw it on a Gameshow sometimes, read about it in magazines very seldom, but since there were no arcades you never got to play one really. The only exceptions where when you went on vacation somewhere that had an arcade or if you knew some family rich enough to buy a home console. Me, I only ever heard rumors about someone owning a Neo, I never believed them. I guess I even thought the console you saw on TV or in the mags was some kind of rare proto you could only get through contests or luck... and there were a lot of kids on my school and in my clique that never heard of the Neo, let alone arcade gaming.
 
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and it wasn't RGB.

Not true. Most (all?) homecart systems are equipped with DIN RGB ports which gives you a razor-sharp RGB output on CRTs or 15KHz monitors via Scart. Same goes for the NGCD. Just because you Aussies and many of our American friends mostly had to cope with TVs that only supported composite back in the day doesn't mean others had to endure a blurry picture as well. :)
 

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Not true. Most (all?) homecart systems are equipped with DIN RGB ports which gives you a razor-sharp RGB output on CRTs or 15KHz monitors via Scart. Same goes for the NGCD. Just because you Aussies and many of our American friends mostly had to cope with TVs that only supported composite back in the day doesn't mean others had to endure a blurry picture as well. :)
I guess what I meant was that almost nobody had an RGB monitor, even if the console could output RGB. As far as I know there were no TVs in the US and Australia that could do RGB (unless they were a rare european model with a SCART connector). So it was just some computer monitors, and professional monitors, which were expensive. At the time I didn't know there were much better connections like RGB and video formats like 60hz, as the video game magazines didn't mention it. If had known about RGB when I had a SNES, I would have tried to use it, even though getting a decent size monitor would have been difficult. You would see an arcade machine and wonder why the picture looked so much better (even considering that fact that you had a consumer TV), but I realise now it was the combination of RGB (vs composite) and 60hz refresh rate.

How did you do it in Germany in the early 90s- did you have TVs with SCART inputs, and RGB Euro SCART cables?
 
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How did you do it in Germany in the early 90s- did you have TVs with SCART inputs, and RGB Euro SCART cables?

Yes, 99% of them supported RGB and had Scart ports. Never used anything else for my consoles/computers, with the exception of the 2600 and C64 (RF).
 

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I'm not sniffing around, just reading the forums like I do often. Get over yourself.
If we're being honest: I don't understand what issue you have with my posts, but what we're doing here got boring and embarrassing for both of us. If you want to continue let's take it to PMs and not further derail this thread. I admit I started it and my first post here was uncalled for and unnecessary. I don't know what a salmon is and I'm not gonna spend more time googleing it (seems to be pretty universal, I'm just gonna translate it as "pussy").

You're not sniffing and yet you admit instigating for no good reason...what kind of fucked up logic is that???

BTW: Salmon is a fish that swims against the current during mating season, which is what you're doing here. I don't need PMs, I understand you are not a fan of looking dumb in public but it's far too late. Consider this a gift, how else are you going to learn? Hey, quit being so sour and grow a pair, we're all together in this fox hole.
 

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always wanted a cab or something arcade and learned of cmvs(superguns would be too much of a pile)somehow. ms3 demo on some odd system at a Kmart, ss3 and 4s on psx. the multigame and ss cabs I saw rarely as a kid(sure bars in the sticks had games but~not the really ''cool'' ones) have some bit of nostalgia contribution too. When I really think about it I just really wanted ssvs to do ''fatalaties'' as Basara_ thanks for reminding me that I actually don't want to sell;)

also:very_ang:
 
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I know my English isn't the best, so let me try to clarify my last post:

You're not sniffing and yet you admit instigating for no good reason...what kind of fucked up logic is that???
I already read the thread (like I would've if you didn't post in it, I'm not stalking you/sniffing for an opportunity to instigate a fight) read your post and thought "oh, what a nice coincidence, I'll just quickly make some fun of EG for calling me gay, maybe he'll get the joke" - that was all. In my last reply I should've made it clearer that it was uncalled for and unnecessary HERE. I could've better made some (dumb) post about your preference for Arnie/movies with (scantily clad) hyper men, that thread was already OT and in the war room.



I don't need PMs, I understand you are not a fan of looking dumb in public but it's far too late.
I was trying to save the both of us an argument where there is no beef. I originally was just trying to be humorous, and failed.


Thank you for explaining the Salmon analogy though, Slang Dictionaries (for once) weren't the right place to look ^^ if I had gotten that, I would've known your tone wasn't all that aggressive as I made it out to be.
 

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I don't understand how you could play games in the 90s and not even hear of the Neo Geo.

Ban pls ;)

I'm from a small country and where i grew up in the 90's was pretty much in the middle of nowhere. We did have internet in the late 90's but it was not like i was a hardcore gamer back then. I did enjoyed a lot of Doom though and only got my Super Nintendo fix through the neighbors.

I regret nothing, i would have been to young to grasp the awesomeness that is the Neo Geo anyway, if not that, i would have been to poor.
 

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I'm from a small country and where i grew up in the 90's was pretty much in the middle of nowhere. We did have internet in the late 90's but it was not like i was a hardcore gamer back then. I did enjoyed a lot of Doom though and only got my Super Nintendo fix through the neighbors.

I regret nothing, i would have been to young to grasp the awesomeness that is the Neo Geo anyway, if not that, i would have been to poor.

Small or big, it comes down to exposure. Neo Geo in Australia was almost unheard of, emulators later in life were my inlet.
 

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Small or big, it comes down to exposure. Neo Geo in Australia was almost unheard of, emulators later in life were my inlet.
I think there were specialist game dealers in Australia (in the early 90s) that had the Neo Geo, but it would have been thousands for a system with games. So why spend that much, when you could get a computer for the same money? At the time, I didn't even bother trying to find a store that had one, knew it would cost too much. Probably the specialist stores were more common in the eastern states, and you didn't really have the big Electronics Boutique chains that you have now. The SNES and Mega Drive also had games like Mario/Sonic and Street Fighter 2, that the Neo didn't have. It was limited to quarter-munching arcade games. Even if you did get a Neo, you would probably be running it with composite video, and in 50hz. When it got to about 1995, the Playstation came out (which could do reasonable conversions of Neo games, as well as a wider variety of other games, and better sound). Because the Neo hadn't been official released in Australia, there was virtually no second-hand market, so it's not like you could buy the system and games second-hand either.
 
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I think there were specialist game dealers in Australia (in the early 90s) that had the Neo Geo, but it would have been thousands for a system with games. So why spend that much, when you could get a computer for the same money? At the time, I didn't even bother trying to find a store that had one, knew it would cost too much. Probably the specialist stores were more common in the eastern states, and you didn't really have the big Electronics Boutique chains that you have now. The SNES and Mega Drive also had games like Mario/Sonic and Street Fighter 2, that the Neo didn't have. It was limited to quarter-munching arcade games. Even if you did get a Neo, you would probably be running it with composite video, and in 50hz. When it got to the about 1995, the Playstation came out (which could do reasonable conversions of Neo games, as well as a wider variety of other games, and better sound).

I wasn't say, as aware, as other older people may have been at the time. That said I was obsessed with the Neo at a fairly young age due to emulation and as a result tried to impose my interests on others in my class over the years. No one fucking knew about it. From that I have gathered that the mid/late 80's youth of this country didn't really have much exposure to the console at all.
I remember the terrible conversion rate between the AUD and the USD being over double 10+ years ago, that was a real downer In trying to afford a Neo. Nowadays if it was still 48cent to the USD it would be astronomically terrible.
 

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In all honesty I'm just pulling your chain more than anything, so yeah we frequent the same threads and what have you, we're bound to bump into each other here and there, we all have opinions and opinions about every other opinion that isn't our own, that's the whole idea in a place like this. I'm not an expert troll like Doc 'cause he's a seasoned cock lover but I still like to have fundo. I like you man, I truly do, but I think you'd have more fun if you just loosen up a bit.

BTW, your Enlglish is really good, I know where you're coming from, English is my third language as well second being bullshit and first being Spanish.

Edit: Don't get me wrong though, we're not done by a long shot!;)
 
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From that I have gathered that the mid/late 80's youth of this country didn't really have much exposure to the console at all.
what do you mean, the ones who were born in the mid/late 80's? the Neo was only released in 1990.
 

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always wanted a cab or something arcade and learned of cmvs(superguns would be too much of a pile)somehow. ms3 demo on some odd system at a Kmart, ss3 and 4s on psx. the multigame and ss cabs I saw rarely as a kid(sure bars in the sticks had games but~not the really ''cool'' ones) have some bit of nostalgia contribution too. When I really think about it I just really wanted ssvs to do ''fatalaties'' as Basara_ thanks for reminding me that I actually don't want to sell;)

This is exactly also why I also got into in this as well.
 
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