Primary Season: The fun begins

BoriquaSNK

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So, any other political junkies psyched up about the primary season?

Here are the races I'm watching.

Pennsylvania Democratic:

Arlen Specter (D, PA) vs Joe Sestak (D, PA)

Arlen, former liberal-republican-cum-opportunistic-democrat is absolutely neck and neck with Sestak, a formal Navy Admiral running from his left. Specter has the backing of Pres. Obama, Gov. Rendell (who has a HUGE machine in PA), pretty much all the labor unions at the state level, and Veep Biden. Sestak has a surprising amount of momentum and a lot of endorsements from local unions which probably carry more weight. He's also been sweating this a lot more and has built a much more coherent campaign, he's got a serious shot at this.

The polls are WAY too close to call and the primary is tomorrow. A lot of people have been giving Sestak the edge here, and for good reason since he has just about all the momentum, but I wouldn't count out Arlen Specter's institutional support, and at the end of the day I think he has enough of a positive relationship with moderates that he could withstand this fight.

I say Specter by an absolute pinch.


Kentucky Republican:

Dr. Rand Paul vs. Sec St Trey Grayson (R, KY)

Grayson is gonna get his ass kicked, and this is going to look a LOT more interesting when Paul gets to the Senate.

In a dream world, he'd throw together some really interesting legislation that, while largely impossible to administer, could shake up the institution of the senate enough to get some legitimate policy debates back into play. From the right, all we hear is Big Government, from the left, all we hear is Special Interests. I personally like the idea of an institution with both Bernie Sanders (a socialist) and Rand Paul (a libertarian)...at least as long as Paul acts like one and doesn't become another GOP flunky.

But he probably will become a flunky because he lives in a state that likes appropriation funds just as much as anybody else, and all the lofty promises will probably mean bunk when he's faced with angry constituents wondering why he prevented them from getting highway money. Such is politics.

Anyway, I think Rand runs away with it.


Arkansas Democratic:

Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D, AK) vs. Lt Gov Bill Halter (D, AK)

Like many of the liberals in Arkansas, I really, really do not like Blanche Lincoln, but she has such overwhelming establishment support that it may not matter much. Halter has the support of liberals and labor since he, y'know, has principals, but his momentum has been lost and I think Bill Clinton coming in to stump for Lincoln probably helped plug up the leak in her poll numbers. It's still close, but I personally think Lincoln is going to eek by and thus lose the general by a mile.

Lincoln by 4-5 points.


And here's a general race that I'm REALLY interested in...

Florida General:

Crist (I) vs Rubio (R) vs Meeks (D)

Man, what a great story this was. Crist was a few years from hopping off the GOP train anyway, but this race expedited that and I think it will do more to harm the GOP than any other race this year.

Crist is an interesting guy, he ran on a conservative record, but he's truly a much more 3rd way kind of guy. He's gay (not out yet but c'mon, that marriage is a sham), generally fiscally conservative, and while his stated record definitely leans right, he's had a not insignificant shift leftward that has made him one of my favorite personalities this year. He vetoes a terrible education bill, he's about to veto a terrible abortion bill, he proudly embraced the stimulus and saved his state, and he's pro gun. I have to say, I agree a lot with the new Crist and think he'll be a serious contender.

Rubio will, I think, fizzle out as the three way debates start in a few weeks. Meeks will lose ground to Crist who is going to make a serious shift for moderates, and he'll make Rubio look like a fool in the process. I see immigration as being a big turning point to the benefit of Crist as we get close to november.

I say, right now, Crist wins it and caucuses with the Democrats when he gets in. Anything can happen in more than 6 months of course, but I only see Meeks taking the brunt of the fallout.

What do you guys think? Any other races worth considering? Am I off base?
 
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I happened to see that some incumbent republican in Utah just got upset and the caption for the interview (with some crazy looking redneck receptionist looking lady named Candy) was so-and-so 'the victim of voter anger'

'the victim of voter anger'
 

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One man, no vote.

Maybe when political lobbying is outlawed entirely, I'll start caring about politics again. But I wouldn't bet on it. Republican, Democrat, both sides of the same devalued coin.
 

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I happened to see that some incumbent republican in Utah just got upset and the caption for the interview (with some crazy looking redneck receptionist looking lady named Candy) was so-and-so 'the victim of voter anger'

'the victim of voter anger'

Yeah that was Sen. Bennett, a quiet, reliable conservative republican.

He got ousted because he voted for Bush's TARP. The people that are replacing him in the race are both loud blowhards who have CLEARLY never seen how the senate works. One filibuster and that fiery right wing bluster ends when you realize you can't get anything done.
 

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Crist to me is the best story of this election.

He's exactly what we need, more Independents.

Only big thing that'll be going on here is our governor election coming up. Our former governor Roy Barnes (D) vs. who it looks like will be Nathan Deal (R).

Deal is amongst the most corrupt congressmen this country had right lately. You could write a damn book on all the shady shit she's done. Countless ethic probes showed he was pushing policy for the finanical sake of his friends and family.

Since he's a bible loving Republican he'll win the election, then he can fuck us at a State level with his corruption.
 
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Crist is interesting --he's basically a big-city Republican who found his party no longer wants Eisenhower/Nixon-era Republicans. He and Michael Bloomberg should run for President.
 

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If Crist gets elected, he'll have to pull a Mitt Romney and completely reconfigure his social policy in order to caucus effectively with the Democrats.

Sure, I supposed he could be the GOP Lieberman and caucus with them, but the GOP hates Crist FAR more than the Dems hated Lieberman, a lot of the anger towards the latter was outside of the party apparatus.

So, I think Crist will all of a sudden become pro-choice (or at least not anti-choice) and generally pro-gay (until he comes out anyway), but he'll probably hold his own on gun and fiscal issues. He's still a relatively popular governor and I think democratic voters who would otherwise be afraid to vote for him will be much more likely to do so. Lump them in with independents (at least those not on Rubio's side) and moderate republicans and he could run away with this.

Right now, however, the race is still really close. Hell, even Meeks is within 10 points in most polls, who knows what could happen?
 

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Why the obsession with Crists sexuality? It has nothing to do with anything. And what makes you think he would want to jump into either party if attempting a presidential campaign.

Crist is interesting --he's basically a big-city Republican who found his party no longer wants Eisenhower/Nixon-era Republicans. He and Michael Bloomberg should run for President.

I'd vote for him if he did. I am going to vote for him for senate now that the primary really doesn't mean anything.
 

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Why the obsession with Crists sexuality? It has nothing to do with anything. And what makes you think he would want to jump into either party if attempting a presidential campaign.

Firstly, he's been vocally anti-gay in the past, so his sudden back peddling mixed with him being a bit of shameless closet-case makes it news. It's not an obsession, it's just a big factor in considering the kind of politician he is.

Also, he wouldn't last 30 seconds in a presidential campaign. While I like SOME of his politics, make no mistake, he's an opportunist and a big one...so pretending that he won't caucus with a party is ridiculous. The Senate is all about committee appointments, and he won't get any if he doesn't caucus.
 

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"he's an opportunist and a big one"

So he is trying to appease the very large gay community in Florida and win votes. Same as he did with the education bill and others.

Dur hur or he could just be one of them closeted faggots.
 

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"he's an opportunist and a big one"

So he is trying to appease the very large gay community in Florida and win votes. Same as he did with the education bill and others.

Dur hur or he could just be one of them closeted faggots.

Sigh...when you get a moment, check out the documentary "Outrage". It's very good, and does a much better job of articulating my point.

In any case, I think we can all agree that he's an example of an effective policy maker. It naive to think he's being altruistic about all this, he just happens to have a level head about policy.
 

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In any case, I think we can all agree that he's an example of an effective policy maker. It naive to think he's being altruistic about all this, he just happens to have a level head about policy.

Isn't that what public service is all about?

If I lived in Fl, I'd vote for Christ as an Independent. Sure, It sucks that we won't have a brother in the Senate, but I don't think that Meeks can win in the 3 way heat.

And let's face it... Rubio is a fucking tool.
 

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Isn't that what public service is all about?

If I lived in Fl, I'd vote for Christ as an Independent. Sure, It sucks that we won't have a brother in the Senate, but I don't think that Meeks can win in the 3 way heat.

And let's face it... Rubio is a fucking tool.

Indeed, I don't mind political opportunism if it gets shit done.

Hell, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both great examples of seizing the moment.
 

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I'll just vote in the "secondary"

Primaries are for political wonks whose idea of a good time on Fri. night is watching PBS talking heads and the McGlauphin (sp?) Group. (Although the woman on that show is hot)
 
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