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I totally wish America was more like China where they deal with minor infractions with the death penalty.
I'd sue...
You shouldn't be allowed to use a tazer on somebody like that.
This kind of human bullfight is much more entertaining than baseball. They should make a gameshow out of this.
One part "Running Man", one part "Don't Taze me, bro!"
See it on OCP TV.
I think that the security officer was running out of breath....
I don't care what you do, Trip Him, Tackle him... Just don't taze his ass.
Norton you know I love you but -
There is too much lunacy that goes on down there now a days. It is getting like an Eagles crowd down there (I will never never go to an Eagles game even if I have Suites tickets). There have always been issues like incidents that happen everywhere across the country, but it has gotten worse in the past few years (someone getting beaten to death in the parking lot over a spilled beer, the puking incident, etc.) When the Phillies were not as successful, it used to be more of a family atmosphere. Now it is an excuse to party and carry on.
It's usually worse there when the New York/New Jersey fans come down here, especially Friday nights when they are here. I heard two horror stories from Saturday and Friday about a Mets fan sitting at Harry the K's and some drunk asshole cold cocked him in front of his kids, which resulted in a multi-person brawl. I also heard a story about someone getting punched so hard into the Mitchell and Ness store in the Alley that an ambulance had to pick him up as he was unconscious. It is FUCKING BASEBALL for Christ's sake.
These are just two incidents from the past few days. I would not take my family down there, these people do not know how to behave.
I'm not saying the kid was drunk (he probably would have pissed all of the beer out of himself when he got tazered anyway.) but a lot of this is the result of beer muscles. Beer will always be sold at the ballpark, it is too big a revenue stream for the Phillies and their partners. One of the big problems down there is the Phillies and everyone else need to stop the tailgating that goes on down there now before, fans are coming in inebriated before they buy beers at the stadium. I know they should not be allowed to buy beers when drunk, but how many times could you just ask a friend to get one for you and no one would know the difference. The Eagles have cut down on the time you are allowed to tailgate and you can't camp out there the night before anymore. I'm sure you could go to a bar and drink of course, but it would cut down on some of it. I went to a Flyers playoff game this year and met up with some friends before the game in the parking lot and watched their friends get drunk and smoke pot before they even went to the game.
Was the force excessive? Probably, but these people and the tazered kid deserve what is coming to them. I think a lot more people should be tazered as it will deter these hoodlums of all ages to stop this nonsense. I know the Phillies head of security (a few people on here can vouch that I probably do, Norton for one) and I saw the three feet+ of tazer wire they shot the kid with. He said there has been a big crackdown on on the field shennanigans since the Monica Seles incident in 1993 (What if the kid went after Albert Pujols?). He also said every minor and professional team from every state except Vermont agreed to allow the use and handle tazers. I can also tell you that the Police in Philly do not mess around with these pricks that get out of control at the ballpark, resist with a Philly cop and you're in for a world of hurt. He also told me that someone who streaked there a few years ago had to register as a sex offender and got fined $2500.
The Chief of Police in Philly said that they used allowable force. The little prick's family should be fined for this and he should be made an example for this inexcusable behavior just like the puking fat fucker, I'm sure some lawyer will get him off though, but he deserved every bit of it, hopefully tazering some idiot kid will wise some people up.
the puking incident, etc.
Fan at Phillies Game Intentionally Vomits on 11-Year-Old Girl
4/16/2010 10:30 AM ET By Ryan Wilson
Michael Vangelo, an Easton, PA police captain by day, decided to take his daughters to the Nationals-Phillies game at Citizens Bank Park Wednesday night. It seemed like a good idea right up till the moment the Vangelos got to their seats.
According to NBC Philadelphia, Vangelo, 43, says from the moment his family sat down, a group of unruly men starting disturbing anyone near them.
"They were yelling vulgarities, obscene language," Vangelo said Thursday. ... I had beer thrown on me and water and then one individual started spitting at the back of my daughter's chair and he actually spit on my 11-year-old daughter," he said.
Vangelo eventually reported the men to the ushers who promptly ejected them from the stadium. And that's when things went from bad to worse.
[Another] fan -- identified by police as Matthew Clemens -- was sitting with another, unrelated group of fans who were also disciplined for acting out when he allegedly did what Vangelo describes as the "most disgusting thing" he's ever seen.
Clemens, 21, positioned himself behind the 11-year-old's chair, stuck his fingers down his throat and vomited on the girl and her father, police said. "He leaned forward, he projectile vomited all over me and my daughter."
Other fans tackled Clemens to the ground ("He was still vomiting on the other fans that were holding him down," Vangelo said) before he was arrested on charges including assault and harassment. Bail has been set at $12,000.
I had to look that up, and this is just awesomely bad:
Philly needs a cure, and that cure is OCP.
He was from out of town, southern New Jersey to be exact. Jersey FTW.
People don't attack me randomly while I'm at work, if they did, I'd tase the shit out of them.
Self defense....exactly my point.
I guess all baseball players should carry tazers.