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I mean, I try my best to have a mature "who cares" approach to this kind of stuff...and for the most part I do these days.
But, IDK. If someone needs an a "youtube entertainment/influencer" to open up your eyes to aspects of a hobby you're "into"...how" into it" can you really be?
Like, if you truly enjoy this stuff so much wouldn't you have done your own research and made different choices years ago?
Everybody has to start somewhere, and I get that, but for a very longtime I've found it strange how there's relatively little backlash toward these youtube channels/personalities and the typical fanbase it attracts. Though this thread kind of proves otherwise.
Disclosure : I'm kind of in a hurry right now, if this post doesn't make sense, sorry.
From what I can see, most of the OG fans have long moved on to MiSTer FPGA, emulation, sd carts, and other alternative gaming solutions anyway (which is fine and cool too).
That seems to be the case for OG fans and "n00b" arcade enthusiasts alike. I just posted a "How To" tutorial on setting up the new Sega System 16 Multi that just came out, and I'm getting a ton of responses saying "why bother - the MiSTer core will be out soon." I predict that most OG arcade PCB prices will stabilize as soon as there's MiSTer cores for the most popular 20 - 25 games.
Little do people know, if you don't get the next generation into the hobby, then the value of your plastic crap completely collapses.
See:
pez, atari, western toys, spaceman toys, he-man, gi-joe....hummel. pretty much any action figure really. HotWheels....
I think the MiSTer is the most overhyped thing ever, don't get me wrong it seems like a good device, but for some reason someone says "FPGA" and people think those are some kind of sci-fi like universal IC replicator, one that's going to be 120% similar to the original custom ICs in those old consoles. They fail to realize someone needs to program them, and guess what? Knowledge to program console cores comes from... emulation.
And inflated prices comes from people hyping their own collection and claiming emulation will never come close for that ARCADE FEEL. Noobs usually go through the path of least resistance and when they do buy original hardware (because of the aforementioned old tymer hype) they usually buy the cheapest options anyway (bananacarts/neosd, shitty chinese superguns, etc), especially in the arcade domain which not many people will dare enter because, quite frankly, it's a pain in the ass hobby.
I think the MiSTer is the most overhyped thing ever, don't get me wrong it seems like a good device, but for some reason someone says "FPGA" and people think those are some kind of sci-fi like universal IC replicator, one that's going to be 120% similar to the original custom ICs in those old consoles. They fail to realize someone needs to program them, and guess what? Knowledge to program console cores comes from... emulation.
FPGA people are REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING about it, they are like those damn rasperry pi emulator fans. They just won't fucking shut up about it. But, to be honest, original hardware is starting to get old and problematic. I wouldnt mind some sort of FPGA solution for Neo-Geo cart that actually read from original carts. I don't mean some sort of 'dump from carts and read the roms' solution. I mean something that would read the data from the carts, like the real deal.
I got quite a lot of Midway boards, aka Killer Instinct 1/2, MK1/2/3, NBA JAM and those boards are starting to get fussy these days. A modern 100% accurate hardware reproduction of those boards that worked with the originals rom chips would be interesting.
I don't mean some sort of 'dump from carts and read the roms' solution. I mean something that would read the data from the carts, like the real deal.
I mean... dumping the carts and reading the ROMs or reading the ROMs from the cart itself will yield the exact same result (ie: look at the NeoSD).
So, out of curiosity, is this because you actually like or enjoy the feel of having the carts themselves and plugging them in and out?
Because that's something which would be 100% doable, even with the MiSTer, you just need to have enough I/O pins available.
I'm sure that if you would request this in the MiSTer Github and people would come in and second your request, it will eventually be done.
I mean, I try my best to have a mature "who cares" approach to this kind of stuff...and for the most part I do these days.
But, IDK. If someone needs an a "youtube entertainment/influencer" to open up your eyes to aspects of a hobby you're "into"...how" into it" can you really be?
Like, if you truly enjoy this stuff so much wouldn't you have done your own research and made different choices years ago?
Everybody has to start somewhere, and I get that, but for a very longtime I've found it strange how there's relatively little backlash toward these youtube channels/personalities and the typical fanbase it attracts. Though this thread kind of proves otherwise.
Disclosure : I'm kind of in a hurry right now, if this post doesn't make sense, sorry.
Whats the point though? Just plug them in an AES or MVS. Why does the MISTer need to support physical carts?
To get away from an ageing and limited source of motherboards. Now I wouldn't get anxious about that but people out there do. Buuut carts die too so it's just a farce all round anyway.
FPGA people are REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING about it, they are like those damn rasperry pi emulator fans. They just won't fucking shut up about it. But, to be honest, original hardware is starting to get old and problematic.
Indeed.
I was just addressing a user who, for reasons unstated, wanted to use real physical carts.
I believe that by clever multiplexing or maybe just using USB headers you could do it on the MiSTer, but again... it would be quite some work to do and I personally really can't see the benefit.