CRT Fetish Thread

[Yodd]

Only real problem with XM29 is they die fast. Anybody here try to do a cap kit on one? I've had two, gave away the first one and now am having problems with my 2nd. Taking off the housing looks like it's going to be the worst...

Ouch.

 

[aaronmjr]

Only real problem with XM29 is they die fast. Anybody here try to do a cap kit on one? I've had two, gave away the first one and now am having problems with my 2nd. Taking off the housing looks like it's going to be the worst...

Not good. I have not heard of anyone re-capping one. What makes the job look worse than others? Many more caps?

 

[PunkicCyborg]

sorry but the nec XM29 is 600 lines

and seriously, the picture isn't even better than some consumer tv sets that i have already see

extremely overrated monitor

Just jealous you don't have a badass 29" RGB monitor

 

[FilthyRear]

Just jealous you don't have a badass 29" RGB monitor

I would be, too, if I didn't have one myself.

 

[Mega]

I agree with aaronmjr that the XM29 seems overrated with image quality below a high-end PVM/BVM, yet prices much higher than the Sony monitors. Still I guess it's worth it to some given the rarity, screen size and features.

Are there any other 15/31KHz monitors of that size? The only one I can think of is the 32" widescreen BVM.

 

[Jibbajaba]

In case you guys are interested, I had some folks comment about the monitor stand that I am using with the 14L5 PVM in my most recent Youtube video.





It's an Alsop Metal Art Jr monitor stand:

http://www.allsop.com/monitor-stands/metal-art-jr-pearl-black

It's perfect for a 13 or 14 inch CRT. Sells for around $20 to $25.

They also make a wide version:

http://www.allsop.com/monitor-stands/metal-art-monitor-stand-large-black

That one is wide enough to fit a 13 inch monitor and a pair of smaller desktop speakers on each side. I definitely wouldn't try to put a 20 inch monitor on there, though.


They have a couple other designs too:

http://www.allsop.com/monitor-stands/

Amazon has the stand for like $18:

http://amzn.to/1P8dEvQ

How did you get your monitor at that angle, though? This stand looks like it's basically parallel to the desk surface...

 

[DragonmasterDan]

I agree with aaronmjr that the XM29 seems overrated with image quality below a high-end PVM/BVM, yet prices much higher than the Sony monitors. Still I guess it's worth it to some given the rarity, screen size and features.

The NEC XM29 is definitely more common than any 26+ inch Sony's or Misubishi's that I'm aware of. I own a larger PVM than it. I know there's a few others. There's much larger Mitsubishi's but for the most part it seems like the most common larger display monitor that does 240P RGB at console and arcade KHZ rates.

 

[texaspowtapa]

Just jealous you don't have a badass 29" RGB monitor

yes

 

[aaronmjr]

Are there any other 15/31KHz monitors of that size? The only one I can think of is the 32" widescreen BVM.

At least for what made it to North America, isn't the Mitsubishi Megaview XC-3730 or whatever, multisync? But yes, to your point there are not many larger size monitors that do both. I also want to clarify that the picture on the XM29 is really great, but I personally don't think ANY CRT is worth $1000+ which is why I consider it overrated.

 

[Yodd]

Amazon has the stand for like $18:

http://amzn.to/1P8dEvQ

How did you get your monitor at that angle, though? This stand looks like it's basically parallel to the desk surface...

The rear legs of the monitor hang off the back of the stand angling the front of the monitor up.

 

[texaspowtapa]

i didn't mean to be rude

it's just that i always got pissed of by whatever the thing that is overrated, silly

but i'm plenty sure that the xm29 isn't 800 lines, u can find this information in every were

this is how a 800 lines 29" monitor looks like:

pictures off a sony kx29hv3 taken by a friend who lives in japan , this monitor looks like a pvm 2930qm but is much better, the thing does 800 lines of resolution(the 2930qm has only 620, right?), have amazing black leves and a bunch of rgb inputs in the back, i really doubt that other thing can do better images at this big

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[FilthyRear]

i didn't mean to be rude

it's just that i always got pissed of by whatever the thing that is overrated, silly

but i'm plenty sure that the xm29 isn't 800 lines, u can find this information in every were

this is how a 800 lines 29" monitor looks like:

600 lines, 800 lines, who cares - my Saturn, Genesis, CMVS, Dreamcast VGA, and Supergun all look boss on my XM29+.

 

[texaspowtapa]

600 lines, 800 lines, who cares - my Saturn, Genesis, CMVS, Dreamcast VGA, and Supergun all look boss on my XM29+.

yeah i know, this is what matters,

 

[aaronmjr]

but i'm plenty sure that the xm29 isn't 800 lines, u can find this information in every were

This is straight from the manual, sir. 800 lines of horizontal resolution for the XM29.....



Also, those pictures you posted of the Sony are really nice but don't look significantly better or worse than the XM29. It's SO hard to tell how these things look in a photo. If you haven't seen an XM29 in person you simply aren't qualified to judge.

 

[Mega]

^The figure in question is the vertical lines, an important factor in determining overall sharpness and scanline thickness. Right or wrong, that does say 600 lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_lines

i didn't mean to be rude

it's just that i always got pissed of by whatever the thing that is overrated, silly

but i'm plenty sure that the xm29 isn't 800 lines, u can find this information in every were

this is how a 800 lines 29" monitor looks like:

None of the pics you posted prove anything. The XM29 looks different from a PVM because it has a shadow mask (not aperture grille) and I'm betting NEC did not use the same SMPTE-C phosphors as Sony did with its pro monitors. From what I've seen, the XM29 looks so different from a Sony that direct TVL and scanline comparisons can't be drawn.

Compare these XM29 pictures:
http://www.bluegamer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/IMG_20141021_091749.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AgxB9BwiJ1s/Vb1UnumddUI/AAAAAAAAC0o/vRbzYQTCZIg/s1600/480i.png

To these PVM-2950Q pics:
http://i.imgur.com/LTKFXz7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ubt5hPV.jpg

Look at the difference. It's like using megapixels to decide between two completely different types of cameras!

Anyway, I was doing a bit of Googling and was led back to an old thread here regarding large 15Khz monitors.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?19783-RGB-Monitor-List
"Here's a list of RGB 15khz compatible monitors I found on Usenet you guys could use for projects.
Here's a list of some older 15KHz monitor specs."


Size Make Model MaxRes HScan DP VRef
42 Mitsubishi AM-4201R 1280x1024 15.7-64 Khz 1.1 45-120 Hz
42 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 42 (AM-4201R) 1280x1024 60 Hz 15.75; 20-64 Khz .96 45-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView 37 (XC-3716C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15-39.5 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView 37 Plus (XC3717C) 1024x768 75Hz 15-61 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 37 (XC-725C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15.75; 24-64 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 37 800x600 15-36 Khz 1.1 40-120 Hz
37 NEC MultiSync XP37 (XP3778A) 1280x1024 1524-78 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 NEC Multisync XM37 (XM3750A) 1024x768 1524-61 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
35 Mitsubishi AM-3501R 640x480 15-35 Khz 1.0 40-75 Hz
33 Mitsubishi MegaView 33 (XC-3315C) 800x600 60 Hz 15-38 Khz .83 40-120 Hz
33 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 33 1024x768 15-38 Khz .83 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 29 (XC-2930C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15-82 Khz .79 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 29 1280x1024 15-82 Khz .79 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi MegaView 29 (AM-2725A) 640x480 66 Hz 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
29 NEC MultiSync XM29 (XM2950) 1024x768 15-50 Khz .75 40-100 Hz
29 ViewSonic ViewSonic 29 GA 1280x1024 60 Hz 15-64 Khz .75 45-160 Hz
28 Aydin Controls Spectrum Autosync 9026 800x600 15-38 Khz .74 50-90 Hz
27 Mitsubishi AM-2752A 640x480 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
27 Mitsubishi AM-2752 640x480 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
27 NEC MultiSync 4PG 1024x768 15-50 Khz 40-120 Hz
27 Sony PVM-2530/BS 640x200 15.734 Khz .73 59.9 Hz
26 Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 26M (HC3505SK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
24 Image Systems M24LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems C21LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz .29 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems M21LMUMAX 2048x1536 15-65; 48-108 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems M21LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Sony PVM-2030/BS 640x200 15.734 Khz .55 59.9 Hz
20 Aydin Controls Spectrum Autosync 9008 1024x768 15-38 Khz .28 40-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20LF 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20LP (HC3925L9ATK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20M (HC3925ATK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Sony GVM-2020 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .55 50-100 Hz
20 Taxan Supervision 970 640x48060Hz 15-37 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
19 Barco CD-351 1024x768 15.5-23.5 Khz .32 50-60; 72-80 Hz
19 Conrac 7250 1280x1024 15.73-37 Khz .31 Hz
19 Microvitec 1019 800x600 15-36 Khz 40-100 Hz
17 Image Systems M17L-T 1600x1280 15-65/48-108 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
15 Electrohome C15 Series 15 1024x768 15-50 Khz .28 45-90 Hz
15 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5015 800x600 15.5-37 Khz 50-90 Hz
15 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5015A 800x600 60 Hz 15.5-38.5 Khz .31 50-90 Hz
15 Princeton Graphics Multiview II 640x870 15-70 Khz NA 75 Hz
14 AOC CM314 800x600 15-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Commodore 1950 (AOC CM314) Up to 800x600 15-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Darius TSM-1431 800x600 15.75-39 Khz 50-90 Hz
14 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5014 800x600 15.5-37 Khz 50-90 Hz
14 Magnavox CM1352 640x200 15.7 Khz .42 47-62 Hz
14 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 14 (AUM-1381A) 800x600 60 Hz 15.6-36 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
14 Mitsubishi FA-3415 800x600 15.7-35.5 Khz .28 45-80 Hz
14 Nanao FlexScan 8060S 640x480 15-35 Khz Hz
14 Nanao FlexScan 9060S 800x600 15.5-38.5 Khz .28 50-90 Hz
14 NEC MultiSync II 800x600 56 Hz 15.5-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Panasonic PanaSync C-1391 1024x768 (i) 15.5-36 Khz .31 40-80 Hz
14 Princeton Graphics 1400 (Utra 1400)~A Multisync 15-36.5 Khz 45-120 Hz
14 Relisys RE-5155 800x600 15.5-35 Khz Hz
14 Sony GVM-1310 800x600 60 hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1354Q 640x200 15.734 Khz .25 59.97 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1351Q 640x200 15.734 Khz .37 59.97 Hz
14 Sony GVM-1311Q 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1390 640x200 15.734 Khz .37 59.97 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 770+LR 640x48060Hz 15-35 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 770+ 640x48060Hz 15-35 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 775 640x48060Hz 15-38 KHz .28 50-90 Hz
14 Wen JM143E 800x600 15.75/30-37 Khz .68 48-90 Hz
13 Aydin Controls SP 1499 1280x1024 15-40 Khz .31 40-90 Hz
13 NEC Multisync 3DS 800x600 56 Hz 15.8-38 Khz .28 50-90 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1303 800x600 15.75-35.5 Khz .37 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1402E 640x480 60 Hz 15-34 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1302 800x600 60 Hz 15-34 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1302A 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
10 Sony CPD-9000 640x240 15.75 Khz

 

[DragonmasterDan]

^The figure in question is the vertical lines, an important factor in determining overall sharpness and scanline thickness. Right or wrong, that does say 600 lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_lines



None of the pics you posted prove anything. The XM29 looks different from a PVM because it has a shadow mask (not aperture grille) and I'm betting NEC did not use the same SMPTE-C phosphors as Sony did with its pro monitors. From what I've seen, the XM29 looks so different from a Sony that direct TVL and scanline comparisons can't be drawn.

Compare these XM29 pictures:
http://www.bluegamer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/IMG_20141021_091749.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AgxB9BwiJ1s/Vb1UnumddUI/AAAAAAAAC0o/vRbzYQTCZIg/s1600/480i.png

To these PVM-2950Q pics:
http://i.imgur.com/LTKFXz7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ubt5hPV.jpg

Look at the difference. It's like using megapixels to decide between two completely different types of cameras!

Anyway, I was doing a bit of Googling and was led back to an old thread here regarding large 15Khz monitors.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?19783-RGB-Monitor-List
"Here's a list of RGB 15khz compatible monitors I found on Usenet you guys could use for projects.
Here's a list of some older 15KHz monitor specs."


Size Make Model MaxRes HScan DP VRef
42 Mitsubishi AM-4201R 1280x1024 15.7-64 Khz 1.1 45-120 Hz
42 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 42 (AM-4201R) 1280x1024 60 Hz 15.75; 20-64 Khz .96 45-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView 37 (XC-3716C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15-39.5 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView 37 Plus (XC3717C) 1024x768 75Hz 15-61 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 37 (XC-725C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15.75; 24-64 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 37 800x600 15-36 Khz 1.1 40-120 Hz
37 NEC MultiSync XP37 (XP3778A) 1280x1024 1524-78 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
37 NEC Multisync XM37 (XM3750A) 1024x768 1524-61 Khz .85 40-120 Hz
35 Mitsubishi AM-3501R 640x480 15-35 Khz 1.0 40-75 Hz
33 Mitsubishi MegaView 33 (XC-3315C) 800x600 60 Hz 15-38 Khz .83 40-120 Hz
33 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 33 1024x768 15-38 Khz .83 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi MegaView Pro 29 (XC-2930C) 1280x1024 75 Hz 15-82 Khz .79 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 29 1280x1024 15-82 Khz .79 40-120 Hz
29 Mitsubishi MegaView 29 (AM-2725A) 640x480 66 Hz 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
29 NEC MultiSync XM29 (XM2950) 1024x768 15-50 Khz .75 40-100 Hz
29 ViewSonic ViewSonic 29 GA 1280x1024 60 Hz 15-64 Khz .75 45-160 Hz
28 Aydin Controls Spectrum Autosync 9026 800x600 15-38 Khz .74 50-90 Hz
27 Mitsubishi AM-2752A 640x480 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
27 Mitsubishi AM-2752 640x480 15-39 Khz .76 45-100 Hz
27 NEC MultiSync 4PG 1024x768 15-50 Khz 40-120 Hz
27 Sony PVM-2530/BS 640x200 15.734 Khz .73 59.9 Hz
26 Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 26M (HC3505SK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
24 Image Systems M24LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems C21LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz .29 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems M21LMUMAX 2048x1536 15-65; 48-108 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Image Systems M21LV-65MAX 1280x1024 15-80 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
21 Sony PVM-2030/BS 640x200 15.734 Khz .55 59.9 Hz
20 Aydin Controls Spectrum Autosync 9008 1024x768 15-38 Khz .28 40-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20LF 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20LP (HC3925L9ATK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 20M (HC3925ATK) 800x600 15-38 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
20 Sony GVM-2020 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .55 50-100 Hz
20 Taxan Supervision 970 640x48060Hz 15-37 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
19 Barco CD-351 1024x768 15.5-23.5 Khz .32 50-60; 72-80 Hz
19 Conrac 7250 1280x1024 15.73-37 Khz .31 Hz
19 Microvitec 1019 800x600 15-36 Khz 40-100 Hz
17 Image Systems M17L-T 1600x1280 15-65/48-108 Khz NA 55-90 Hz
15 Electrohome C15 Series 15 1024x768 15-50 Khz .28 45-90 Hz
15 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5015 800x600 15.5-37 Khz 50-90 Hz
15 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5015A 800x600 60 Hz 15.5-38.5 Khz .31 50-90 Hz
15 Princeton Graphics Multiview II 640x870 15-70 Khz NA 75 Hz
14 AOC CM314 800x600 15-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Commodore 1950 (AOC CM314) Up to 800x600 15-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Darius TSM-1431 800x600 15.75-39 Khz 50-90 Hz
14 IDEK / Iiyama MF-5014 800x600 15.5-37 Khz 50-90 Hz
14 Magnavox CM1352 640x200 15.7 Khz .42 47-62 Hz
14 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 14 (AUM-1381A) 800x600 60 Hz 15.6-36 Khz .31 45-90 Hz
14 Mitsubishi FA-3415 800x600 15.7-35.5 Khz .28 45-80 Hz
14 Nanao FlexScan 8060S 640x480 15-35 Khz Hz
14 Nanao FlexScan 9060S 800x600 15.5-38.5 Khz .28 50-90 Hz
14 NEC MultiSync II 800x600 56 Hz 15.5-35 Khz .31 50-80 Hz
14 Panasonic PanaSync C-1391 1024x768 (i) 15.5-36 Khz .31 40-80 Hz
14 Princeton Graphics 1400 (Utra 1400)~A Multisync 15-36.5 Khz 45-120 Hz
14 Relisys RE-5155 800x600 15.5-35 Khz Hz
14 Sony GVM-1310 800x600 60 hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1354Q 640x200 15.734 Khz .25 59.97 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1351Q 640x200 15.734 Khz .37 59.97 Hz
14 Sony GVM-1311Q 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
14 Sony PVM-1390 640x200 15.734 Khz .37 59.97 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 770+LR 640x48060Hz 15-35 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 770+ 640x48060Hz 15-35 KHz .31 50-90 Hz
14 Taxan Supervision 775 640x48060Hz 15-38 KHz .28 50-90 Hz
14 Wen JM143E 800x600 15.75/30-37 Khz .68 48-90 Hz
13 Aydin Controls SP 1499 1280x1024 15-40 Khz .31 40-90 Hz
13 NEC Multisync 3DS 800x600 56 Hz 15.8-38 Khz .28 50-90 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1303 800x600 15.75-35.5 Khz .37 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1402E 640x480 60 Hz 15-34 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1302 800x600 60 Hz 15-34 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
13 Sony CPD-1302A 800x600 60 Hz 15-36 Khz .25 50-100 Hz
10 Sony CPD-9000 640x240 15.75 Khz

I have both an XM29 and a PVM 3230 (which isn't on the list above but is a 240P 15kHZ monitors).

Everything related to visual quality comes down to a matter of opinion, but once the geometry is set. I will say that the XM29 does produce a better image (it is about 5 and a half inches smaller in terms of screen size). So aperture grill vs shadow mask isn't always a clear one is greater than the other situation.

 

[aaronmjr]

I have both an XM29 and a PVM 3230 (which isn't on the list above but is a 240P 15kHZ monitors).

Everything related to visual quality comes down to a matter of opinion, but once the geometry is set. I will say that the XM29 does produce a better image (it is about 5 and a half inches smaller in terms of screen size). So aperture grill vs shadow mask isn't always a clear one is greater than the other situation.

I don't even want to know how much that 3230 weighs, haha. As far as picture quality I believe the 3230 is 650TVL, which I know isn't the end-all-be-all of quality measurements but in my experience matters quite a lot if you're after an ultrasharp picture. You should chain them together and do some side by side pics of your XM29 and 3230, that would be fun to see.

I've posted this before, but here's a comparison of a PVM-2530 at 560 lines, and a PVM-20M4U at 800 lines:

560 lines

800 lines

 

[aaronmjr]

^The figure in question is the vertical lines, an important factor in determining overall sharpness and scanline thickness. Right or wrong, that does say 600 lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_lines

Sorry, I missed this part of your post. Unless I am severely mistaken the measurement in question is lines of horizontal resolution. That is what we are talking about when we quote TV Line measurements regarding picture quality. From the very article you linked. It says Lines of horizontal resolution. And the manual quotes lines of horizontal resolution.

 

[Mega]

I think you're right. I read that as 800 horizontal lines, but it probably is 800 (vertical) lines of horizontal resolution.

Sides that, it does look like relatively high TVL. For such a big monitor, the scanlines are pretty thick for it to only be 600.

 

[DragonmasterDan]

I don't even want to know how much that 3230 weighs, haha. As far as picture quality I believe the 3230 is 650TVL, which I know isn't the end-all-be-all of quality measurements but in my experience matters quite a lot if you're after an ultrasharp picture. You should chain them together and do some side by side pics of your XM29 and 3230, that would be fun to see.

I have them on different shelves just due to space, but the 3230 is an absolute beast. A quick video of it compared to a 2030 is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YgUu_jaFw this was prior to my obtaining the XM29.

 

[aaronmjr]

I have them on different shelves just due to space, but the 3230 is an absolute beast. A quick video of it compared to a 2030 is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YgUu_jaFw this was prior to my obtaining the XM29.

Wow it TOWERS over the 2030! Thanks for sharing.

 

[munchiaz]

So a little over a month ago i picked up a JVC DT-V1910CG monitor. For most of my consoles it seems to work find, and its easy to adjust the horizontal and vertical with an easy on screen menu. I did have a question though. According to this PDF it doesn't mention anything about 240P. I have my consoles connected via a SCART to BNC cable. the screen does display a 480 when there is nothing on the screen, and during gameplay. Does this mean the screen does not output in 240P?

Also, I have noticed with my PC Duo-R and my Veja jr. super gun, that there is a slight bending effect at the top right and left of the screen. There is also this bending effect when the screen is scrolling. Not sure if it has to do with sync issues, or if i need to add a resistor to the SCART cable for PC duo and my supergun. Heres an image and a video of the issue

http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/MONITOR/photos/general/DTV19101710.pdf



vertical screen bending
https://youtu.be/BmxxEN13lLY

wanted to add a few images of the display. It does look very nice. I;ll have to post an image of the video output display later on

 

[DragonmasterDan]

So a little over a month ago i picked up a JVC DT-V1910CG monitor. For most of my consoles it seems to work find, and its easy to adjust the horizontal and vertical with an easy on screen menu. I did have a question though. According to this PDF it doesn't mention anything about 240P. I have my consoles connected via a SCART to BNC cable. the screen does display a 480 when there is nothing on the screen, and during gameplay. Does this mean the screen does not output in 240P?

It's likely doing it. 240P isn't as widely adopted of a standard so it's often not mentioned. In a lot of ways it's a hack of 480i.

Also, I have noticed with my PC Duo-R and my Veja jr. super gun, that there is a slight bending effect at the top right and left of the screen. There is also this bending effect when the screen is scrolling. Not sure if it has to do with sync issues, or if i need to add a resistor to the SCART cable for PC duo and my supergun. Heres an image and a video of the issue

http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/MONITOR/photos/general/DTV19101710.pdf



vertical screen bending
https://youtu.be/BmxxEN13lLY

wanted to add a few images of the display. It does look very nice. I;ll have to post an image of the video output display later on

Interesting convergence issue. Are those using the same type of input as other systems that don't have that problem?

 

[skate323k137]

Not really a convergence issue but a geometry one (if R/G/B were misaligned in the corner, that would be convergence).

I've seen similar issues with the more complex PVMs (the 800 line ones like 20M4U or even the 600 line 20M2MDU). A lot of times it comes down to caps in the geometry circuits, since they have 3 separate pin amps (normal pincushion, upper pin, lower pin).

I would definitely try other inputs/sources like DragonmasterDan said, but more than likely I'd guess it's a cap issue and not a fun one at that. If it's only with particular sources of video on the other hand that's good news, and I'd try adjusting resistance on the R G and B lines as well as the sync signal. I use anywhere from 110 to 330 ohm on each line, but 220 tends to work fine for all my superguns and PVMs.

 

[xsq]

A quick video of it compared to a 2030 is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YgUu_jaFw

Holy shit, I want to dive into that tube...