How much are you killing the planet? AKA what type of vehicle do you drive?

[deezruptor]

Was going to ask in the car thread, but figured I'd make a poll instead. Prolly don't need so many poll options...is turbo diesel a thing i dont fucking know. I don't know wtf other would be either.

Poll allows for multiple votes, for those of you who are really sticking it to mother earth.

 

[Arcademan]

A life long pedestrian and Public transportation type of person myself.

 

[LoneSage]

A life long pedestrian and Public transportation type of person myself.

Can you tell me what that's like in America? Over here there are so many buses and subway stations coming every three minutes that you really don't need a car. But what's it like in Arizona？

 

[BeefFieri]

I can afford to pay people to drive me around. It's called Pittsburgh Regional Transit.

No, but seriously... I only drive when I go out of town these days. Renting a car a few times a year is a lot cheaper than owning your own. I like walking and taking public transit. It's a lot less stressful than driving yourself in traffic. I don't feel as rushed as I used to either. Sadly, the day will be coming in the next 1-3 years where I will need to buy a car again. Along with all the costs of fuel, maintenance, and insurance. *sigh*

 

[Neodogg]

“Other” tractor…combine…backhoe…bobcat…

 

[lithy]

Leave it to moe to make a car engine poll and you can guarantee he will screw something up.

ICE (NA, Turbo, Supercharger, or Twincharged make all of no difference as they don't say anything about fuel economy, which is ultimately your question. You could split out Ethanol maybe? But Ethanol is a stupid idea that everyone already forgot about.)

Diesel (Biodiesel, Turbo Diesel see above)

Hybrid (Mild Hybrid ala Toyota Prius, Plug-in Hybrid ala Ford Energi line, Range Extending Hybrid ala Chevy Volt)

Electric (full BEVs, the real future environmental catastrophe)

Other (you forgot Hydrogen Fuel Cell, LNG vehicles at the very least, look up Coal Gas cars if you want to see some wild stuff.)

A decent and responsible human being uses energy dense gasoline with two middle fingers raised from a prayer rug pointed toward Washington DC. And they will use less fuel in their lifetimes than the preachy elites that fly around the world a hundred times over each year to tell you to stop driving 10 miles to work each day.

 

[Lagduf]

Gas. Wouldn’t mind a hybrid. Kinda want a Ford Maverick.

Will entertain an EV sometime down the future. I don’t have a garage but I do have a carport with 240v service.

 

[city41]

I screwed up my vote and I don't think you can edit afterwards. I have a gas (naturally aspirated) and electric car. So I guess I average out to a hybrid.

 

[Lagduf]

Leave it to moe to make a car engine poll and you can guarantee he will screw something up.

ICE (NA, Turbo, Supercharger, or Twincharged make all of no difference as they don't say anything about fuel economy, which is ultimately your question. You could split out Ethanol maybe? But Ethanol is a stupid idea that everyone already forgot about.)

Diesel (Biodiesel, Turbo Diesel see above)

Hybrid (Mild Hybrid ala Toyota Prius, Plug-in Hybrid ala Ford Energi line, Range Extending Hybrid ala Chevy Volt)

Electric (full BEVs, the real future environmental catastrophe)

Other (you forgot Hydrogen Fuel Cell, LNG vehicles at the very least, look up Coal Gas cars if you want to see some wild stuff.)

A decent and responsible human being uses energy dense gasoline with two middle fingers raised from a prayer rug pointed toward Washington DC. And they will use less fuel in their lifetimes than the preachy elites that fly around the world a hundred times over each year to tell you to stop driving 10 miles to work each day.

Is coal gas the same as wood gas aka syngas?

 

[city41]

But Ethanol is a stupid idea that everyone already forgot about.

Ethanol is in almost all gasoline in America. Brazil too. It is a stupid idea, a stupid idea we're stuck with.

 

[lithy]

Ethanol is in almost all gasoline in America. Brazil too. It is a stupid idea, a stupid idea we're stuck with.

Yeah I guess in this case I specifically meant E85. Although they still try to push cheap prices on the E15 stuff every so often branded as 88 Octane.

 

[StevenK]

We're full electric these days, I'm not an environmental obsessive but the electric is so much cheaper to run, plus no congestion charge in London, plus no road tax, plus no ULEZ charge inside the M25 motorway, the list goes on. I like the car too, it's just a fairly basic VW but it's fun.

I also keep a diesel saloon kicking around in case I want to throw the family in the car for a weekend away, I don't feel like the electric infrastructure is quite there yet to risk days away from the home charging plug.

I was wondering the other day though, whether I'd piss the owners off if I threw a charging cable out of the window at an Airbnb. My guess is yes.

 

[LoneSage]

I also keep a diesel saloon kicking around in case I want to throw the family in the car for a weekend away,

How far is a weekend away in the UK? No funnin', I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Takumaji]

I don't have a bike at the moment but I'm gonna get me a small one again. Been using public transport for ages now but prices have risen dramatically and it also sucks like hell most of the time so fuck this gay earth, a new two-stroke crosser it will be. Don't really like them but they're cheap and my place of work lies in the woods so I need something more rugged to go there, a street bike or some silly scooter thing won't cut it.

 

[StevenK]

How far is a weekend away in the UK? No funnin', I'm genuinely curious.

My parents live about 180 miles away, it's only 3-4 hours away but it means that when we get there realistically the first thing we need to do is find somewhere to charge the car. It gives my dad the perfect opportunity to throw a few 'new fangled technology' jibes, like he does every time I use the sat nav, so rather than ask if I can run a cable out of his window I just prefer to take it out of the equation.

On the subject of sat nav, it works perfectly for me basically all of the time, but I can guarantee that if I'm trying to get to somewhere that my dad is also going to it will somehow let me down and he'll be there, waiting, with a big fucking grin on his face when I pull up late.

 

[Moob Butter]

I’m on petrol for all 3 of my vehicles, the youngest of which is from 2005. I‘ve driven newer cars (rentals when abroad or for business trips) but I find them boring. I’m much more at home in a old shitbox.

@StevenK I hear https://www.zap-map.com/ is useful for route planning longer distances with electric cars. With careful prior planning I think you can go anywhere in the UK now with an electric car - at least that’s what the converts tell me.

What is true though is that while it’s cheap to charge your electric car at home, on the road less so - there’s not much difference between a tank of petrol and a full charge at one of those fast charge places at a BP garage.

I saw a year or so back that Volvo published that the environmental break-even point of EV cars is not till about 60,000 miles from factory when you consider the energy costs to manufacture them and all the elements required for their batteries. I can’t help but feel the environmental credentials of EV cars have been over-promoted. It’s probably the tunnel jew trannies up to their old propaganda tricks again but I’d need to consult an expert on that.

 

[wyo]

Electric cars are not economically viable without government handouts at the expense of everyone else. Now the roads are falling apart because stevenk is freeloading around the place.

 

[StevenK]

Electric cars are not economically viable without government handouts at the expense of everyone else. Now the roads are falling apart because stevenk is freeloading around the place.

This makes me extremely hard

 

[Lagduf]

How far is a weekend away in the UK? No funnin', I'm genuinely curious.

Yeah I read “days away” and I was like…can’t you drive the country in a day?

 

[Moob Butter]

Lands End to John O Groats is 14 hours, that’s about as far as you can go on the mainland. Do-able in one day but nah.

 

[Lagduf]

America is stupid huge.

 

[Moob Butter]

I’ve driven a 10 hour car journey in winter before but I didn’t particularly like it, and I probably was unsafe to drive by the end due to tiredness if I’m honest.

I try limit myself to 5 to 6 hours max in a day, with a break after 3 hours.

 

[Jon]

Twin turbo Kia Stinger GT2. In Eco mode, it does about 31 mpg. Driving around town, about 18-20.

On my trips to PA, which I usually make 2-3 times per year, one way is about 8-10 hours. @norton9478 used to say "Ohio is HARD CORE."

Jon

 

[StevenK]

America is stupid huge.

True, but so is Europe, and people buy electric vehicles there. Why? Because their supermarket is a mile away.

 

[theMot]

We're full electric these days, I'm not an environmental obsessive but the electric is so much cheaper to run, plus no congestion charge in London, plus no road tax, plus no ULEZ charge inside the M25 motorway, the list goes on. I like the car too, it's just a fairly basic VW but it's fun.

Put your electric car in the trash followed by your man card.