need help here on neo geo cd?

ivaner

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this is a bit of a noob question but does the neo geo cd play backups without any modification like the sega cd? How about the turbografx cd consoles?
 

Ackula

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I don't think this is an appropriate question for these boards..but hey, I'll try and answer.

About a year ago I was unfortunate enough to recieve a large number of CDr games for NGCD, with a system on eBay. Had I known they were CDR I would not have bought them.

I have a Top Loader system, and it will play some backups fine. But pretty much any fighting game, or newer game will crash after about 15 minutes of playtime, and give an i/o error.

Some times instead of an i/o error I would get a screen saying "this is not an offical SNK product please buy the real game" or something to that effect.

I have heard that the CDZ will not play them at all...but I do not know from expereience.

So in short...the NGCD will play backups of a few games without problems, but the majority of them it will not play...or at least mine will not.

And finally...NGCD games are cheap as shit man...why not just buy them?
 

ivaner

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I didn't even know you could sell stuff like that on ebay,anyways i just went there and some games are $20 bucks and up, also what about the turbografx cd's and phillips cdi, bandai playdia , nec pc-fx, towns marty, and CD32 can this systems also play backups.Im not promoting piracy here but instead preservation of games.
 

Kumavnmitsurugi

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just wanted to add that my japanese Neo CD plays all the back up games i have...

and were talkin Sam Sho 4 and KOF 99 , aka the newer games. So im not sure if the ability to play back-ups differs from region........and no i dont think those systems can play back ups, and yes you are promoting piracy
 

Ackula

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Kumavnmitsurugi said:
just wanted to add that my japanese Neo CD plays all the back up games i have...

and were talkin Sam Sho 4 and KOF 99 , aka the newer games. So im not sure if the ability to play back-ups differs from region........and no i dont think those systems can play back ups, and yes you are promoting piracy

Prehaps it was just the way that whoever burnt mine did them..maybe there are some sort of patches you must apply to the iso before burning it...I don't really know or care...I was just speaking from my own experiences, and also I gave a few to a friend to try once and they had the same problem with them.

As for region..prehaps that is it, my top loader is US but with the region switch mod added. Prehaps only the US systems had the copy protection applied, thats very interesting.

ivaner said:
I didn't even know you could sell stuff like that on ebay,anyways i just went there and some games are $20 bucks and up, also what about the turbografx cd's and phillips cdi, bandai playdia , nec pc-fx, towns marty, and CD32 can this systems also play backups.Im not promoting piracy here but instead preservation of games.

I do not know about those other systems because I actually buy my games. And I fail to see how burning bootleg copies of games will be "preservation of games".
 

Neo Alec

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I'm getting a CDZ that I'm going to try Charles Doty's cart games converted to Neo Geo CDs on (only games I already own as MVS of course). I assume that as long as they're burned on a CDR that the CDZ can read, I won't really be causing anymore damage to it than I normally would with a regular game. I wonder if anyone has recommendations for a brand of CDR that is known to work well in a CDZ?

Regarding playing backups of games that you own in order to preserve the game -- this is a bullshit argument in my opinion. Playing CDs shouldn't hurt them, other than the stress of removing and inserting the disc from the case/drive. We always play my bro's original Sapphire disc for the Duo. It hasn't hurt any other games, so why worry? It still doesn't hurt to have a copy of such an expensive game laying around though, should anything happen to it.
 

Murray

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Basically everything Ackula said +1.

I don't see why it would be a regionally implemented thing ... just maybe different batches of systems are less sensitive to burns than others. I know for sure that when I was testing out KOF98 as a burn before I bought it, it crashed about 15 minutes into the game no matter how my language switch was set.

Testing load times before you buy is about the only good reason I can see to make NGCD burns. It's not reliable enough to play the burns all the time.
 
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