Connecticut Elementary School Shooting (AKA "Gun Control Debate" thread...)

[Colorado Rockie]

This guy would have had a gun whether or not guns were banned.

 

[evil wasabi]

if it wasn't for guns, a lot of us would never have been born.

 

[lantus360]

he legally bought his guns. Would have made it much more difficult if he didnt have that right to

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Outrageous and heartbreaking.

 

[ECZangief]

This is just sickening.

Its not really even about guns or gun control. People like this are going to kill, the state of the world today is just whack.

 

[lantus360]

[Updated at 3:51 p.m. ET] A federal law enforcement source tells CNN's John King the information from the scene is that the shooter arrived and headed directly toward and to his mother’s classroom. That and the other information now emerging - another family member killed, police interviews - lead them to believe his mother was the primary target. But they note he also came armed with clear intention of mass killing.

 

[Tung Fu ru]

What a fucked up lunatic. With all the fucked up shit going on in the world, why is there always someone who raises the bar? I can't even imagine what those families, teachers, students, and friends are going through right now.

 

[Sherlin]

As a father, my heart goes out to all who are affected by this.

Don't blame guns.

 

[Sex Machine]

delete.

 

[evil wasabi]

delete.

we'd be speaking a mix of French, Spanish, and buying everything with pesos and francs (the Euro wouldn't need to exist). Oh yeah, and that Zimmerman Telegram? Not even necessary. We would be in line with the National Socialist Party of Germany.

jk - diplomacy would ensure our liberties and freedom.

 

[Sex Machine]

Not technically, there's no need for guns to survive, you don't have to hunt your food, there's no real reason to own a gun for anyone at this stage in human history other than to do some sort of harm. Other countries seem to be doing well with more gun control. And if gun control could have stopped Tonk from being born? Who's to argue?

 

[Poonman]

Hey Neira, rape happens as well...you and every other male should bank your sperm and chemically emasculate yourself just to make sure such an ugly crime never happens again.

 

[Sex Machine]

Hey Neira, rape happens as well...you and every other male should bank your sperm and chemically emasculate yourself just to make sure such an ugly crime never happens again.

Not comparable. A gun isn't apart of your own body, Unless you're robocop.

 

[68k]

sigh

 

[aria]

A fact that came up today, and one I hope people remember as they try to work through this tragedy, is that the number of mass-shooting has actually been stable for the past few decades. That doesn't excuse this, that doesn't mean it's okay, but be wary of people saying things are somehow worse than they ever were.

 

[OMFG]

Regardless of anyone's stance on firearms, parents will be holding onto their children a little tighter tonight. For all parents on this forum, please take some time to reflect on your children.

As a new father, I've never felt so vulnerable. I frequently work in Newtown and the surrounding areas within Connecticut. The way of life is pretty calm throughout the state normally when compared to place I've been to. There's no surprise that an issue like this will affect the local residents for years.

Outside of the shooter's actions, I'm very appalled at the way some reporters were approaching families and children for a comment/statement. Not only was this unprofessional, but was very inhumane to the children that have just gone through a traumatic event.

 

[BryLmoo]

from my cold dead hands
guns don't kill people. people kill people

blah blah fucking blah

that idiot should never have been able to purchase those fire arms. i feel so bad for the families of those effected by this...

 

[Pope Sazae]

My son is only 3 but my stepdaughter is in second grade. I can't even begin to imagine the feeling these people are going through, makes me sick to even have the thought of the pain I'd be feeling if it happened at my girls school.

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[lantus360]

A fact that came up today, and one I hope people remember as they try to work through this tragedy, is that the number of mass-shooting has actually been stable for the past few decades. That doesn't excuse this, that doesn't mean it's okay, but be wary of people saying things are somehow worse than they ever were.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/19075096/28-mass-shootings-since-columbine

 

[cdamm]

im not a gun guy, but banning guns wouldnt help solve the issue at hand.

this also happened today in a school. no gun. the story has been lost in the sea of what happened in ct.

 

[evil wasabi]

Not technically, there's no need for guns to survive, you don't have to hunt your food, there's no real reason to own a gun for anyone at this stage in human history other than to do some sort of harm. Other countries seem to be doing well with more gun control. And if gun control could have stopped Tonk from being born? Who's to argue?

What countries are doing better with more gun control?

Here's an interesting story that I would like to share. Back when the Iranian revolution happened, the leaders who took over made a law that citizens could not own guns anymore. All citizens would be allowed to bring their guns to local city centers to be confiscated by the police, with the notice that after 72 hours, police would inspect homes to make sure no guns were left behind. Any guns not turned in would result in a reasonable fine. The people, riding high on the euphoria of a quick and easy revolution, did as they were told, happily. Then the leaders turned out to be crazy bitches and the rest is history.

 

[wataru330]

im not a gun guy, but banning guns wouldnt help solve the issue at hand.

this also happened today in a school. no gun. the story has been lost in the sea of what happened in ct.

Dude, no one died in that attack.

 

[Chempop]

Peace Pledge

"I am a peace builder
I choose to show love, to give up speaking mean words
no notice the hurts I've caused, and make amends
to right wrongs, to help others
to find wise people as guides and friends
I will build peace at home, school, and in my community each day
I do better when I feel better"

Every day my elementary school students recite this pledge. I don't really know what to say other than this sort of massacre is my absolute worst fear. It makes me feel like there should be armed guards in every school, rather than having police mostly driving around giving speeding tickets. Whether or not that would be a good thing, I don't know, but what else can possibly prevent such things from happening. Gun control perhaps, but I doubt it. More therapy, psychoanalysis, and counseling? It wouldn't hurt. The roots of these issues need addressing: glorified violence, media attention, pharmaceutical drug prescriptions, mental illness, trauma grieving, etc. Respect for human life needs to be part of society again, but instead it's all about shitting on each other to get slightly ahead in the world. That's why my students learn the value of community, compassion, and peace-building.

 

[lantus360]

im not a gun guy, but banning guns wouldnt help solve the issue at hand.

this also happened today in a school. no gun. the story has been lost in the sea of what happened in ct.

some mentally unstable guy went to a store and legally bought 3 firearms and a vest with the intent to shoot up an elementary school

if you took that away from a person like that it would go a long way

 

[lantus360]

What countries are doing better with more gun control?

Australia

Read up on the Port Arthur massacre and its subsequent gun control reform