2016 Presedential Race - Who do you got?

Who will become our next President?


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Rot

Calvin & Hobbes, ,
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New Mod... and NEXT Prez of the USA...

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...because SERIOUSLY... O'Baby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O'Bama....

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smokehouse

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A government or adminstration caring for their people is hardly socialism. I guess the Trumps of this world have told you guys a lie or two too much, otherwise you wouldn't spout such nonsense.

There you go with that "C" word...anyone who thinks their government cares for them is a deluded fool.
 

Takumaji

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There you go with that "C" word...anyone who thinks their government cares for them is a deluded fool.

I don't care whether they really care for me or not but I think a reasonable public health and transport system should be obligatory. If a government with all its money can't take care of that, they should be chased out of office. The muppet theater you guys make around those simple things is quite amusing.
 

DNSDies

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You know what CalTran's mission statement is?

"Provide a safe, sustainable, integrated and efficient transportation system to enhance California’s economy and livability"

Notice, the economy gets top billing.
There is a reason for that.
 

Kristian Meller

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Except we also have quiet a lot of private schools, private courier services, a fair bit of the electrical infrastructure is owned by a handful of corporations, private security firms exist (mall cops, for example), and there are quite a lot of private parks. My homeowner's association has a private park for the community to use that we all pay for.

I'll admit the roads are public, but only because it's not feasible to build private roads on top of them. City planning is hard enough without worrying about future private road plans.

How odd. We also have private schools, hospitals, courier services, etc.
 

Kristian Meller

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A government or adminstration caring for their people is hardly socialism. I guess the Trumps of this world have told you guys a lie or two too much, otherwise you wouldn't spout such nonsense.

They've been told all this bullshit since birth. It's not really their fault.
 

Karou

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whites were slaves too? it was just a little longer ago... the upper crust only went along with letting them go because everybody figured it out. so why are the controlled media spotlighting(promoting on both sides regardless of supposed true intent) racism regardless if its true or not? president smezident. welfare and all that is crumbs when you control and profit from even how food is allowed to be produced and deeper?
 

wataru330

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I'm in the highest tax bracket already, so I'm already giving a 1/3 of the dough away anyways...

Since the tax code doesn't give me a choice about being parted from my money, I'd at least like to give it to somebody nice.

Somebody, like Bernie.
 

smokehouse

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I don't care whether they really care for me or not but I think a reasonable public health and transport system should be obligatory. If a government with all its money can't take care of that, they should be chased out of office. The muppet theater you guys make around those simple things is quite amusing.

I don't think I'll of you in the slightest...and I don't disagree with your thoughts. What I think is wrong is the the truth of what is vs what should be.

I look at it this way. My personal opinion of what would he best? Communism. The problem, however, is greed. One simple word. This little thing wrecks the entire scene and causes shit like communism or socialism to completely collapse.

I agree the government should supply simple things like you listed, but they don't...or, if they do, it comes at a cost so high, it isn't worth it. Couple to that the completely lackluster services the gov provides. The US gov is a fat, lazy, corrupt, slow pile of stacked ineffective shit. 4000 cooks in the kitchen all wanting kick backs and fighting to have it their way...meanwhile the people wanting food are starving.

So...putting even more control in their hands is just fucking absurd...
 

norton9478

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As far as cost goes, I'll put my electrical bill up against any of yours.

5.2 cents per KWH (In the highest cost/usage month of the year)

Note:last winter, it was about 7.2 cents per kwh.


It feels so good to not have to send twice as much to Iberdrola (My old utility company HQ'd in spain).
 
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StevenK

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I don't think I'll of you in the slightest...and I don't disagree with your thoughts. What I think is wrong is the the truth of what is vs what should be.

I look at it this way. My personal opinion of what would he best? Communism. The problem, however, is greed. One simple word. This little thing wrecks the entire scene and causes shit like communism or socialism to completely collapse.

I agree the government should supply simple things like you listed, but they don't...or, if they do, it comes at a cost so high, it isn't worth it. Couple to that the completely lackluster services the gov provides. The US gov is a fat, lazy, corrupt, slow pile of stacked ineffective shit. 4000 cooks in the kitchen all wanting kick backs and fighting to have it their way...meanwhile the people wanting food are starving.

So...putting even more control in their hands is just fucking absurd...

Communism is stupid, and for countless reasons other than greed.
 

smokehouse

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Communism is stupid, and for countless reasons other than greed.

Ok then....

I don't think that the concept of people working for the common good is a bad thing...it's just that it is impossible on a large scale.
 

StevenK

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Ok then....

I don't think that the concept of people working for the common good is a bad thing...it's just that it is impossible on a large scale.

It is impossible on any scale, because what the common good actually is will always be viewed differently by different people. It can hold for a while, but not forever. Just look at divorce rates.
 

Jon

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I'm in the highest tax bracket already, so I'm already giving a 1/3 of the dough away anyways...

Since the tax code doesn't give me a choice about being parted from my money, I'd at least like to give it to somebody nice.

Somebody, like Bernie.

^^This guy tried to beat Oriental Legends for PGM.

Jon
 

Kristian Meller

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Quick translation:

Since XPC4 landed on this creature many years ago, he has made us all proud... His mission to make earthlings dumber and dumber has been an incomprehensible success...
 

hyper

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Kristian Meller is just buttmad his parents didn't send him to NYU
 

TonK

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Sanders comes in 2nd, its a political revolution, Trump comes in 2nd hes a loser.

logic
 

Jon

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Sanders comes in 2nd, its a political revolution, Trump comes in 2nd hes a loser.

logic

I wouldn't sweat it right now. Iowa has not been a good indicator, at all, of who becomes the Republican nominee.

Democrats, on the other hand....

Jon
 

cdamm

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Sanders comes in 2nd, its a political revolution, Trump comes in 2nd hes a loser.

logic

trump got blown out.

sanders lost literally on coin flips. slightly different.

also trump is a xenophobic racist assface. more people want to see him fail than bernie.
 

DNSDies

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Reagan lost Iowa as well, and that was back when the state was winner take all.

The reality is that Trump lost, but not by much. He has one fewer delegate than Cruz, and if Carson drops out, his delegates will for SURE go to Trump.
Rubio might as well.
 
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