Are you QAnon?

Lagduf

2>X
20 Year Member
As dictator I promise to ban Genesis/Phil Collins/Peter Gabriel and Elton John

Edit: Actually in your eyes is a good song. Elton John has one OK song

I’m going Judge Dredd when i am democratically elected as Dictator for Life.

I will murder all slavers, rapers, and murders.

I will then call a constitutional convention and upon the establishment of a democratic republic I will abdicate my rule to face charges of crimes against humanity.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
I’m going Judge Dredd when i am democratically elected as Dictator for Life.

I will murder all slavers, rapers, and murders.

I will then call a constitutional convention and upon the establishment of a democratic republic I will abdicate my rule to face charges of crimes against humanity.

That’s one way to be entered into the Society of Cincinnati.
 

Lagduf

2>X
20 Year Member
I will have to do more research on this society.

As an aside I know several people who are in to the QAnon stuff :(
 

Heinz

Parteizeit
15 Year Member
I like how it started out on 4chan by a poster named 'Q'. All I can think of is...

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We're being fucked with by omnipotent beings.
 

Yamazaki

Belnar Institute Student
15 Year Member

Tripredacus

Three 6 Mafia
10 Year Member
They were talking about it on the radio this morning. They interviewed an expert. He said that 4chan is a conspiracy forum. Also inferred that only people from the US post on the internet.
 

Lagduf

2>X
20 Year Member
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evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
One bullet, no audience, no show, no nonsense. Throw the body in an unmarked mass grave with the rest of ‘em.

Or do it like they do in 40K when they purge xenos: drop them from above in to lava en masse.

Something beautiful about dropping enemies into molten steel, to be completely removed from existence. Did they ever exist? Hard to tell. And to those who didn’t see it happen... maybe the people are still alive somewhere.
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
Big couple last weeks in the Q world.

https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...-shutters-after-reports-identifying-developer

QAnon site shutters after reports identifying developer

So what does this mean? It sounds like its just one of the main post aggregates. There's another article I read first that made almost no sense.

I think it was yesterday 911 operators on the west coast were inundated with calls regarding Q'anon and the forest fires, telling them it was Antifa who was starting the fires, asking about antifa and telling them about Q'anon.

Pence was supposed to attend a fundraiser sponsored by a major Q pusher but backed out in the last few hours.

“I said it’s a conspiracy theory, I don’t have time for it, I don’t know anything about it. And honestly, John, I get it. I mean, I get that the media, particularly CNN chases after shiny objects,” Pence said.

“This is not a shiny object,” Berman replied. “The FBI considers this a dangerous group.”

President Trump on Wednesday had said he didn’t “know much about the movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate.”

“These are people that don’t like seeing what’s going on in places like Portland and places like Chicago and other cities and states,” Trump said. “I’ve heard these are people that love our country and they just don’t like seeing it. I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me. And they also would like to see problems in these areas … go away.”
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After a reporter attempted to describe the QAnon conspiracy theory in further detail, Trump repeated that he wasn’t aware of it but it wouldn’t be bad thing if he could “help save the world from problems.”

Pence denied that Trump’s statements were an embrace of the movement, saying, “I didn’t hear that. I didn’t hear anything. I heard the president talk about how he appreciates people that support him.”

The democratic candidate in the Georgia race dropped out. She did site safety concerns as one of the reasons. I hope she wasn't chased out by crazies.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...-conspiracies-and-why-hes-sticking-with-trump

On the topic of QAnon, This is a group that the FBI has classified as a domestic terror threat. They’ve been involved in kidnappings and killings. Do you think tech platforms in this country should monitor, track, and censor QAnon in the same way they do radical Islamic terrorist groups?

Can you say batshit crazy on your show?

You just did.

Well, QAnon is batshit crazy. Crazy stuff. Inspiring people to violence. I think it is a platform that plays off people’s fears, that compels them to do things they normally wouldn’t do. And it’s very much a threat. But there are a lot of websites out there. How do you live in this world? So under Section 230 of our law [the Communications Decency Act], a social media company can’t be sued for the content that they carry. I get slandered all the time on Twitter and other outlets. If the New York Times printed an article, I could sue them. If CNN said something about me that wasn’t true, I could sue them. But Twitter and all these other sites can pass on the most scandalous information, you have no recourse. So how to fix this? I would like to remove Section 230 liability. That if you’re going to have a social media site like QAnon or anything else, you spread this stuff at your own peril. So when this guy went into the pizza restaurant in Washington, because they alleged that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile ring out of a pizza place in Washington. This guy took it seriously, went in with an AR-15 and started shooting up place. Thank God nobody got killed. But the pizza owner under my theory, could sue QAnon for passing along garbage. That’s a pretty dramatic step. But the only way I know to make people more responsible who run these websites is allow lawsuits when they go too far.

Lastly whats up with all these news stories about busted pedo rings? Are they legit? If so do you think the president could have pushed law enforcement to pursue them to give Q an air of legitimacy? The only one I saw so far was from ABC news and if you read into it almost all the cases are returning children from one parent who kidnapped and ran off with them back to the other parent.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member

Well, what you worry about on social media sites. You know, so I did the thing called the EARN IT Act. If you’re a parent or you’re a young person, there’s a lot of sexual predators out there on social media sites. You strike up conversations. And we’ve got to harden these sites against abuses. One of the abuses that I’m worried about is the social media sites being used by child predators, scam artists, and now the communist Chinese party, having your data. That’s not good. It’s not good to have a business enterprise penetrate America this much, owned by the Chinese communist party, because only God knows what they will do to your data. Sell it to terrorist groups for counterfeiting money. Knowledge is power, data is power. So your privacy matters to you, but your data should matter too. Because once they know who you are and all the information about you, they can monetize it, they can use it against you. You know when I was little, I used to go outside and play. There were three TV channels when I was born, I was born before cable, B.C. Young people today have tremendous opportunity, but a lot of pressure. A lot of social pressure, a lot of bullying on the internet. It’s a different world out there today. And I’m very worried.

Wtf?!

I’m not sure why he brought up child predators with TikTok as a reason why it’s bad for China to own TikTok and the data...

Like because they can blackmail senators?
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
Wtf?!

I’m not sure why he brought up child predators with TikTok as a reason why it’s bad for China to own TikTok and the data...

Like because they can blackmail senators?

Think he's saying with TikTok you need to worry about both pedos and commies.

This TikTok stuff is disturbing. The president says they need to be shutdown, then he says nobody is allowed to buy it, then he says he better get a cut of the action.

These people on the right are always running around frothing at the mouth about socialism....
 
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TonK

Least Valuable Player
Wtf?!

I’m not sure why he brought up child predators with TikTok as a reason why it’s bad for China to own TikTok and the data...

Like because they can blackmail senators?

You'd think trump would want to see dancing 13 year olds.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
Think he's saying with TikTok you need to worry about both pedos and commies.

This TikTok stuff is disturbing. The president says they need to shutdown, then he says nobody is allowed to buy it, then he says he better get a cut of the action.

These people on the right are always running around frothing at the mouth about socialism....

Remember when being a republican was about fighting against graft and waste?
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
Remember when being a republican was about fighting against graft and waste?

Not really, but I do remember when it was at least an insincere talking point.

They've always wasted so much money on defense. I've said numerous times I'm hawkish but 75% or something of this budget is just pork and fraud waste and abuse. Only a small percent of it goes towards "the troops" and equipment and supplies. Contractors are the ones who make the real money.

Then they say oh how are we going to pay for medical care, how can we pay for education?
 
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evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/16/tech/qanon-believer-how-he-got-out/index.html

One day in June 2019, Jitarth Jadeja went outside to smoke a cigarette. For two years he'd been in the virtual cult of QAnon. But now he'd watched a YouTube video that picked apart the last element of the theory he believed in. Standing there smoking, he would say later, he felt "shattered." He had gone down the QAnon rabbit hole; now, having emerged from it, he had no idea what to do next.

'QAnon only hurts people. It has helped nobody.'

QAnon is a virtual cult that began in late 2017.

The most basic QAnon belief casts President Trump as the hero in a fight against the "deep state" and a sinister cabal of Democratic politicians and celebrities who abuse children. And it features an anonymous government insider called "Q" who purportedly shares secret information about that fight via cryptic online posts.

Travis View is a conspiracy theory researcher who co-hosts the podcast "QAnon Anonymous."

The theory's believers "always fantasize that they are saving children and they're bringing criminals to justice," View says. "But QAnon only hurts people. It has helped nobody."

There aren't solid estimates for the number of QAnon followers worldwide, but it's clear their ranks are growing. A CNN investigation reviewed QAnon-related Facebook pages and groups based only outside the US and found a total of at least 12.8 million interactions between the beginning of the year and the last week of September.

Lisa Kaplan and Cindy Otis lead Alethea Group, a company that tracks disinformation to protect its clients' brands. They followed false claims that Wayfair was complicit in a child exploitation plot as they spread from havens for QAnon to the mainstream in the summer of 2020.

"There's not sort of, one sort of set doctrine or belief system," Otis said. "But a lot of it goes down to what goes viral and what doesn't."

Like many previous conspiracy theory groups, QAnon has become as much about community as its actual theory. The result is a convoluted and ever-changing web of beliefs which branch off from the central worldview. In this case, that includes things like members of the supposed cabal also worshipping Satan, and JFK Jr. having faked his 1999 death in a plane crash to escape the deep state plotters. QAnon has also started assimilating unrelated conspiracy theories, including false ideas about the supposedly dangerous nature of 5G infrastructure and the false, dangerous notion that the Covid-19 pandemic is a ploy to monitor private citizens.

Since there's no leadership or structure to QAnon, its supporters incorporate existing conspiracy theories and develop new ones. QAnon "really does take on a life of its own, which can, in fact make it a more significant threat," Kaplan said.

'A car crash you can't look away from'

Jadeja, the former QAnon believer, is Australian. But he said he's always been interested in American politics. He spent time studying in the US, living in Queens, New York. His nationality is a testament to the fact that QAnon has spread well beyond the United States.

"If you'd look in Australian politics, it's boring by comparison," Jadeja said. "American politics, it's like, it's like a car crash you can't look away from."

During the 2016 US presidential election, Jadeja said, he was drawn to then-candidate Bernie Sanders. He liked what Sanders had to say about inequality and his "anti-establishment sentiment."

It felt to him like the world was shocked by Trump's win. How had seemingly no one seen it coming? And most importantly, who had? "I kind of switched off from all mainstream media," Jadeja said.

That's when he began listening to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and reading Infowars, which exposed him to QAnon theories for the first time. By December 2017, he identified as a Q follower.

Around this period, Jadeja said he was in the midst of a 15 year struggle to finish his degree. He'd pulled away from friends and become socially isolated. "I just felt completely overwhelmed... I was probably in a deep depression I think when I found Q," he says.

Once Jadeja found QAnon he was quickly sucked in. He would spend time on websites that aggregated posts supposedly from Q, which often first appear on darker corners of the internet like 8kun. Then he'd move on to read the interpretations of those posts from other believers. These interpretations are popular among the QAnon community because posts from "Q" are often so vague that they can be read in any number of ways. The tactic tends to lure in supporters the way fraudulent psychics can — there's little solid information given, so almost anything can be taken as confirmation of a pronouncement by "Q."

"There'd be a lot of Youtube and Reddit mini-celebrities within the community that would be like the anointed decrypter for that point in time," Jadeja noted.

QAnon was all he wanted to talk about. That made life offline increasingly difficult for him, and he pulled away from friends.

"No one believes you. No one wants to talk to you about it. ... You get all angsty and crabby and whatnot. uch shouting, irrational, you sound like the homeless guy on the street yelling about Judgment Day," Jadeja said.

One of the few people in his regular life with whom he was able to talk with about his newfound interest with was his father. "We used to talk about it a lot. We used to only talk about it with each other. We show each other things like, did you see that? Did you see that?" Jadeja said.

"I think superficially it did seem like [QAnon] gave me comfort," Jadeja said. "I didn't realize the nefarious kind of impact it was having on me because it was very insidious how it slowly disconnected me from reality."

Finding 'answers'

Experts say that people often seek out conspiracy theories in times of crisis.

"I think we tend to underestimate the extent to which these sorts of narratives are appealing," Alethea Group's Otis said, "especially when we're in a time of great stress and emotions are high."

Otis noted that the 2016 US presidential election was one of those times for many people. Now the coronavirus pandemic means uncertainty and anxiety are once again at a high point.

"It's a very compelling narrative to say all of this is orchestrated," Otis said. "There's a cabal coming after you. They're trying to make your life miserable. You want an answer for why bad things are happening? Here they are."

View, the conspiracy theory researcher, said QAnon preys on vulnerable people who in some cases might be suffering from mental health issues.

"I think it's a mistake to say that QAnon is a conspiracy theory, because this kind of makes it sound like Area 51 or Big Foot," he said. "It's a community of people that radicalizes them into a world view, that just essentially detaches them from reality."

For Jadeja, the impulses he developed while he believed in QAnon are a source of shame. "I would have been so happy to see Hillary Clinton dragged in front of a military tribunal, even though she's a civilian," he said.

"That still bothers me to this day, how willing and happy and joyfully I would have reacted to something that I would normally want no part in... This is how you get good people to do bad things."


In a May 2019 bulletin, the FBI warned that conspiracy theories like QAnon could "very likely" motivate criminal and sometimes violent activity in the US especially because of the reach and volume of conspiratorial content available online.

The platform problem

QAnon theories often start out on fringe internet forums like 8kun and 4chan, according to Alethea Group's Kaplan. But once a claim gains popularity there it can quickly catapult onto mainstream social media networks. "It becomes especially dangerous once these conspiracies go on to platforms like Twitter and Facebook, because it increases the breadth of the reach that these false conspiracies have," she said.

Reddit banned a popular QAnon subreddit in 2018. In July 2020, Twitter said it had removed more than 7,000 QAnon-associated accounts. Last week, Facebook announced it would ban any pages, groups or Instagram accounts representing QAnon. And on Wednesday, YouTube joined the other platforms, saying it would prohibit conspiracy theory content that threatens or harasses an individual or group. It stopped short of banning QAnon and other dangerous theories completely.

But the task of identifying and policing these kinds of accounts is massive. Facebook, for one, has previously made promises to ban certain groups or types of content in the past but enforcement has sometimes been slow or inconsistent.


"This isn't something that there's one solution that will, you know, remove this group from their platform for all eternity," Otis said. "It's going to be an ongoing and dynamic problem."

View believes these actions may be too late. "This is a group who are very highly motivated, and they believe that they are fighting essentially an information war."

Leaving Q

After two years in the world of QAnon, Jadeja said, cracks began to form in his conviction. He believed Wikileaks founder Julian Assange had been instrumental in "exposing" Hillary Clinton and had helped win Trump the election. If Trump was trying to bring down the cabal, Jadeja wondered, how could he let Assange face extradition to the US for charges related to publishing secret military and diplomatic documents? On top of that, Jadeja said, he was noticing more logical inconsistencies in QAnon's theories.

But there was one particular piece of "proof" he was still holding on to.

It went like this: A QAnon follower had supposedly asked Q to tell President Trump to use the phrase "tip top" in a speech. Then Trump did.

To Jadeja, that had been proof that Q existed and had the ear of the president.

But then, as his doubts mounted, he decided to research it further and came across a YouTube video that showed other times Trump had previously said the phrase or something similar. Suddenly "tip top" was no longer irrefutable proof, it was probably just coincidence.

For others, that might have easily been glossed over, a blip easily dismissed in their belief. But for Jadeja, who was nearing a break with QAnon, it was a turning point.

"It was the worst feeling I had in my life," Jadeja said.

That's when he went outside for a smoke.

(....)

 

Shmuppy

Banned
If it's true what I felt for so long here on this planet/existence and much indicates towards it... Puhh, we are pretty fucked but we have the choice to change the route we will go when throwing in the next coin/credit, this is very important. Wanna come back with wiped memories--> again or go "elsewhere", but where? This here can't be fixed, it's too fucked up since thousands of years. I have the feeling planet earth is meant to be as it is and ever was... This "game" here sucks for sure. Good graphics but shitty gameplay...

Edit: It doesn't matter which party--> two sides of the same coin. The name of the game is: Devide and conquer. Old tactic, works since ages very well. We must remember who we really are. That scares those...
 
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evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
If it's true what I felt for so long here on this planet/existence and much indicates towards it... Puhh, we are pretty fucked but we have the choice to change the route we will go when throwing in the next coin/credit, this is very important. Wanna come back with wiped memories--> again or go "elsewhere", but where? This here can't be fixed, it's too fucked up since thousands of years. I have the feeling planet earth is meant to be as it is and ever was... This "game" here sucks for sure. Good graphics but shitty gameplay...

Edit: It doesn't matter which party--> two sides of the same coin. The name of the game is: Devide and conquer. Old tactic, works since ages very well. We must remember who we really are. That scares those...

You sound like a complete retard. Please log out and kill yourself.
 
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