How much are you killing the planet? AKA what type of vehicle do you drive?

What kind of vehicle(s) do you drive?

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Moob Butter

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GohanX said:
Oh yeah, there should be an option for "not only am I driving a gas powered car with shitty mileage, I intentionally removed emissions equipment to make it go faster. Fuck you."
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Or…only recharge your Tesla from a diesel generator

 
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wow 32 people responded to this poll. I’d like to thank you all for making this the most successful poll in Neo Geo history.

Also, kinda shocked no one owns a hybrid. :oops:
 
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neo_mao said:
Also, kinda shocked no one owns a hybrid. :oops:
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Yeah, that's weird. I have a Rav4 Hybrid, but I can't vote twice. And the two current cars replaced two hybrid sedans. (Wife wanted all wheel drive. I hate having car payments again.)
 
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Neo Alec said:
We've gotta get off gas somehow if we want our kids to remain on this planet in the long run.
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Mhmm. Do you have any idea the breadth and depth of oil consumption in our economy and how personal vehicle traffic factors into that total?

Neo Alec said:
If we put up roadblocks because of working conditions in lithium mines, for example, that hinders progress. It will hopefully work out okay one way or another. There are lots of people working on it.
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Government action, where people are expected to be judged by their intentions rather than their results. When they fail, they can just ask for more money.

Neo Alec said:
I don't understand people who just want to make excuses. I think it's self-serving (some are simply stuck with an old vehicle) and nihilistic.
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Ah yes, those damn poors who are just 'stuck' with a supposedly Earth raping old car. Fuck them right? They shouldn't get to own a car if they can't afford a new BEV.

BEVs will not be the future and we threw out hybrids far too quickly. The Prius and Volt drivetrains are great. They bridge a gap.

Current lithium battery technology simply does not have the energy storage capacity and the grid does not have the capacity to switch everyone to electric cars without significant negative externalities.

Short of heavy taxes on ICEs, heavy subsidies on BEVs, or flat out bans on new ICE sales, we will be using gas hundreds of years from now.
 
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Does the B in BEV stand for Battery?

Bitchin?
Boner?

Bueller?
 
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As opposed to some other electric configuration? Hybrid or…gas/diesel generating the electricity for an electric motor?
 
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lithy said:
Mhmm. Do you have any idea the breadth and depth of oil consumption in our economy and how personal vehicle traffic factors into that total?



Government action, where people are expected to be judged by their intentions rather than their results. When they fail, they can just ask for more money.



Ah yes, those damn poors who are just 'stuck' with a supposedly Earth raping old car. Fuck them right? They shouldn't get to own a car if they can't afford a new BEV.

BEVs will not be the future and we threw out hybrids far too quickly. The Prius and Volt drivetrains are great. They bridge a gap.

Current lithium battery technology simply does not have the energy storage capacity and the grid does not have the capacity to switch everyone to electric cars without significant negative externalities.

Short of heavy taxes on ICEs, heavy subsidies on BEVs, or flat out bans on new ICE sales, we will be using gas hundreds of years from now.
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Another list of excuses. Those who have the means and want to buy a new car will hopefully at least consider an EV if possible.

If you like your old car, keep your old car (Obama voice). They always say keeping an old car instead of scrapping it for a new one is better for the earth, all said and done. I'm all for it. Like I said, I wish I had been able to keep our two old cars instead of having car payments again. I don't even drive much anymore.

wataru330 said:
Plug in hybrid>hybrid.

Best of both worlds, until the Doc Brown car fuel contraptions become a reality.
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Well, in case it isn't obvious, the price makes it obvious. You'll pay more. You're basically buying an EV with an option to gradually switch over to gas for extended range.

My wife wanted a RAV4 Prime, but we gave up because they were just impossible to find outside of California apparently. It's like Toyota has it as part of their product line but they aren't really trying to sell them. Maybe it's improved since we were shopping for that in 2021.
 
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Lagduf said:
As opposed to some other electric configuration? Hybrid or…gas/diesel generating the electricity for an electric motor?
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Submarines and trains were diesel electric long before electric cars were a thing.
 
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Turbo Diesel! Lets raise the temperature in this gay earth!

I haven't paid for the use of an automobile in nearly 12 years now. :keke: So basically I'm being paid to kill the planet.
 
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Heinz said:
Turbo Diesel! Lets raise the temperature in this gay earth!

I haven't paid for the use of an automobile in nearly 12 years now. :keke: So basically I'm being paid to kill the planet.
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Yeah but you're definitely on that ULSD by now right?
 
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lithy said:
Like submarines, I'm going to sink this thread and then ask Tak to merge it back into the car thread where it belongs in the morning.
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I love Tak but I wouldn’t ask a German for help in things submarine related post 1940.
 
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Lagduf said:
Are there any diesel electric cars in current production?
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As far as I can tell, there has never been a diesel electric hybrid car.

Between the increased initial costs from mandated cleaner emissions and increased operating costs from ULSD fuel, they just aren't much of an economical choice. With how frail modern car modules and electronics are, even if the engine was as bulletproof as the 70s Benz diesels, I doubt you could run the vehicle long enough to see any savings over gas engine cars.

Then VW basically sealed the fate of diesels when they got caught cheating the emissions tests. Diesels are synonymous with dirty, truck like engines in the US.

I know it was always much bigger in Europe than it ever was over here, not sure how regular diesel cars are faring over there these days.
 
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Something I have always wondered is how much extra coal, natural gas, (insert fuel source here) is being used to charge all of the EVs hitting the roads?

I find it ironic that people seem to ignore that the electricity to charge these cars has to come from somewhere. That likely means consuming more power while producing more emissions from power plants. Unless you happen to live somewhere that has 100% renewable energy and negligible emissions, not sure a place like that exists. 66% of the power in my area comes from hydroelectricity and I feel that is an extreme outlier for most.
 
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