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If he's leaving AEW he's either going to WWE or doing freelance shit and trying to launch his acting/hosting career. Impact and MLW can't afford him and I don't think any of the big Japanese or Mexican promotions are in a position to sign big foreign talent at the moment.
 

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Attendance, TV viewership and ratings, merch sales, WWE Network subscriptions, PPV sales are all down significantly and somehow WWE is more profitable than ever.
You save tons of money cutting a dozen folks every other month
 

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The chart might as well represent the shittyness of the product.

1999/2000 were pretty bad but the content improved during the first brand split. Then Cena came on the scene and the quality started going downhill. Only to improve in the first half of the last decade when Danielson and Punk were on top. 2014 was carried by NXT. After that, the overall quality just got worse and worse.
 

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If he's leaving AEW he's either going to WWE or doing freelance shit and trying to launch his acting/hosting career. Impact and MLW can't afford him and I don't think any of the big Japanese or Mexican promotions are in a position to sign big foreign talent at the moment.
Apparently his contract expired at the end of 2021 and he's been working matches on a handshake deal. He and Brandi officially left AEW as of February 15, 2022:

“Cody and Brandi Rhodes were integral to the launch of All Elite Wrestling. Cody’s ability combined with his boldness and his passion for our industry and his love for community outreach helped AEW deliver on our mission to give fans what they needed for far too long – something new, innovative and lasting. Brandi helped us shape the AEW story, and I appreciate how hard she fought for us both in the ring and out of the ring, competing in the women’s division while advancing our efforts at inclusion and civic causes, including great partnerships with Kulture City and the American Heart Association.

I have immense respect and appreciation for Cody and Brandi, and I wish them both the best as they move on from AEW.

Thank you, Cody and Brandi!
Tony Khan CEO, President, General Manager & Head of Creative, All Elite Wrestling”
 

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Sounds like Cody's likely to be a surprise entrant in the Elimination Chamber and then in a main-event level match at WM, which is bizarre to me. I get that Vince would pop a chub over getting to book the competition's recent EVP, but what on earth makes him think WWE's fans will want to see Cody any more than AEW's did? Even if Cody's finally willing to turn heel, Brandi's only going to ever get X-Pac heat regardless of her face/heel status.
 

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WWE Elimination Chamber PLE Results: 2-19-22

Results courtesy of PWTorch.com (direct link to Keller's complete report)

KICKOFF SHOW

(A) Rey Mysterio defeated The Miz in 9:00.

MAIN SHOW​

(1) ROMAN REIGNS (w/Paul Heyman, the Usos) vs. GOLDBERG – Universal Title match

Reigns made his entrance first, accompanied by Paul Heyman and the Usos. Cole noted Reigns has held the Universal Title for 537 days and he’s in the midst of the longest WWE world title reign in 35 years. Graves compared Reigns to Hank Aaron, Mario Lemioux, and Tom Brady. He said he’s in “God mode.” Cole said only four men in WWE history have held the world title longer – Pedro Morales, Bob Backlund, Hulk Hogan, and Bruno Sammartino. (I’m glad they’re stressing length of title reign rather than number of title reigns, although the number of title defenses is another pertinent stat. Those names are all so far in the past because booking was different then, where long reigns were favored over hot-shot title changes to “pop a rating” or shake things up.)

Reigns held the mic center-ring and said, “Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, acknowledge me!” Some cheered, others chanted “Goldberg!” Goldberg’s ring entrance then took place. They were cutting to a lot of crowd shots, close-ups of clusters of enthusiastic fans. Cold said he’s known Goldberg for over 20 years. He said he’s talked to him a lot over the last week, and he’s admitted he was in a funk in recent years, but he no longer is questioning himself. Graves said Goldberg told him he is more dangerous than ever, a thinking man who enters with a strategy. He said Goldberg woke up this morning feeling dangerous.

They had a pre-match staredown. Graves noted Goldberg beat Hulk Hogan to begin his first world title reign ever. Goldberg stared down Reigns as the bell rang. There was a “Let’s Go Roman!” chant followed by a “Goldberg!” chant (which, it should be noted, always sounds in tone to me like NFL fans taunting the visiting goalie to get in his head after he gives up a bad goal). They locked up mid-ring. Reigns got in some punches to take early control. He threw Goldberg out of the ring. He leaned on the announce table and sold the punches. Reigns slammed Goldberg’s head into the table. Goldberg whipped Reigns into the ringside barricade. Cole noted Goldberg has to pin or submit Reigns in the ring.

They action returned to the ring where Reigns pounded away at Goldberg with forearms. Goldberg surprised Reigns with a spear out of nowhere. Cole went bonkers as Goldberg looked around to the fans. He set Reigns up for a Jackhammer. Reigns escaped and landed a uranage for a soft two count. Reigns hit Goldberg with a Superman Punch seconds later. Heyman cheered him on. Goldberg caught Reigns with a spear as he charged at him. Reigns gasped for air, then went for a Jackhammer. Reigns blocked it and applied a guillotine. Goldberg was bleeding from the top of his skull. Goldberg tried to power our. He lifted Reigns and shoved Reigns into the corner, but Reigns held on as they dropped to the mat. Goldberg’s arm flopped and the ref called for the bell.

WINNER: Reigns in 6:00. (*)

(This went as expected and was sufficient for a spectacle between two icons in the opening match position. WWE was never going to do a hot-shot title change with Goldberg just to pop a rating on Fox. The length of Reigns’s reign is a marketing tool they’ve been leaning into, and keeping Reigns strong is way more important than some short-term buzz-generating title change. But if they were going to, Goldberg isn’t the person to “give that rub to.” They put Reigns at a minimal risk against Goldberg, who is at risk due to cardio issues and lack of ring time, of messing up a move that could cause injury. So this was designed to avoid basically anything risky for either wrestler.)

(2) WOMEN’S ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH: NIKKI A.S.H. vs. LIV MORGAN vs. BIANCA BELAIR vs. RHEA RIPLEY vs. ALEXA BLISS – Winner Faces Raw Women’s Champion at WrestleMania

Each woman got a full ring entrance. Nikki faced off against Morgan to start. Doudrop entered third. The overhead shot as they reveal who enters is a cool visual. Doupdrop tossed around Nikki and then went after Morgan, including a running senton. Doudrop shoved Morgan against the side of the Chamber and yelled, “Isn’t she so beautiful?!” Next in was Ripley. Ripley eliminated Nikki with a Riptide a minute later. As Ripley stomped away on Morgan, Bliss entered. (Not much suspense there, since Belair earned the right to enter last.) Bliss went on a flurry against Ripley and Morgan and then played to the crowd and pounded her chest. She landed a backflip double-knee to Morgan for a two count. Ripley took over. When Morgan climbed to the top rope, Doudrop shoved her off. Ripley set up a suplex off the ropes, but Doudrop fended her off. Morgan returned and gave Doudrop a sunset powerbomb for a pin.

Morgan held her knee in pain as Belair entered. She went on the attack against Morgan and Bliss. She pressed Morgan over her head and even removed one of her arms and held Morgan over her head with one arm (and help from Morgan). She landed a moonsault on Bliss next. Ripley then confronted Belair mid-ring with a smile. Some fans briefly chanted “This is awesome!” Belair and Ripley stereo suplexed Morgan and Bliss. Bliss’s skirt covered Ripley’s head as she did the move. Ripley slapped Belair. Belair fired back. They exchanged strikes mid-ring. Belair went for a K.O.D., but she Ripley escaped. Morgan then hit both of them. Bliss then took over control. She landed a Twisted Bliss on Morgan and pinned her.

It came down to Belair, Bliss, and Ripley – not a surprise. Belair gave Ripley a K.O.D. for the three count seconds later. Bliss blocked a suplex attempt and took control. She set up a DDT, but Belair handspringed out of it. Bliss lifted her knees on a moonsault attempt and then rolled up Belair for a two count. Some fans briefly chanted “This is awesome!” again. Bliss finally delivered a K.O.D. for the win.

WINNER: Belair in 16:00. (***)

(Good swift pace start to finish. There certainly wasn’t anything about it that backs up the hype that it’s a brutal, career-shortening type of endeavor. But Belair got a big win and was a centerpiece as she moves on to get her deserved spotlight match at WrestleMania opposite of Lynch.)

(3) RONDA ROUSEY & NAOMI vs. CHARLOTTE FLAIR & SONYA DEVILLE

Charlotte made her entrance first. Then Deville, wearing a sling on her arm. Then Naomi. Cole touted Naomi’s match against Charlotte last week. And finally, Rousey. Cole noted Rosey was wearing her judo gi that she wore at the Olympics in Beijing. The ref attacked Rousey’s arm to the rope keep it locked by her side. When the bell rang, Deville took off her arm sling and revealed she was just fine. She laughed. Saxton said, “She’s healed magically, right?” Charlotte DISTRACTED Rousey, giving Deville a chance to go after Rousey with a flurry of forearms. Rousey came back with a high roundkick and a leaping knee. Rousey called for Charlotte. Charlotte yelled to the crowd, “She wants me?” She then happily tagged in. But then she tagged back out right away to Deville. Graves said it’s all mind games with an eye on WrestleMania.

Naomi tagged in against Deville. Rousey tagged in a minute later. She judo threw Deville to the ground. As she set up an armbar, Charlotte interfered and threw Rousey into the corner. Charlotte and Deville tagged in and out against Rousey, isolating her in their corner. Rousey eventually hot-tagged Naomi, who rallied against Charlotte. Charlotte made a comeback and applied a figure-four. Rousey broke it up. Cole called it “payback.” Deville tagged in and landed a running knee on Naomi for a two count. Rousey tagged in and delivered he Piper’s Pit move with one arm. Then she trash-talked Charlotte before locking on an arm submission for the tapout win.

WINNERS: Rousey & Naomi in 9:00. (*3/4)

(This was sufficient. Having Rousey have one-armed tied to her side protected her mystique since, otherwise, it would seem she should have taken out Deville sooner. Rousey’s disposition was positive and enthusiastic. The main takeaway from the match was that Rousey wants Charlotte, and Charlotte is at least acting arrogant about her chances against Rousey, thus building their WM match.)
 

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WWE Elimination Chamber PLE Results: 2-19-22

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(4) DREW MCINTYRE vs. MADCAP MOSS – Falls Count Anywhere

Corbin joined Moss in attacking him at the bell. Drew took control and they brawled up the ramp. Corbin again interfered. Back in the ring Drew took over and landed an Alabama Slam. Moss bumped with a tuck, which he isn’t supposed to do, and landed on his head awkwardly with all the force of his body landing on his head, compressing his neck. It was scary looking. Graves gasped. The ref checked on him. Drew set up a Claymore, but Corbin yanked Moss to ringside. Drew threw Moss onto the announce desk. Graves said he can’t get over the fact that Moss is still moving. They replayed the Alabama Slam from a minute earlier from a new angle that looked even worse. He said Moss is a tough son of a gun. He touted his survival on neck strengthening exercises.

Corbin hit Drew with a chair from behind. The heel duo threw Drew into the ringside barricade. Moss scored a two count on the mat at ringside. Drew came back with a top rope superplex for a near fall. Moss stood and exchanged strikes with Drew. He used a backslide to score a two count on Drew. Drew came back with a Future Shock DDT. When Corbin charged at Drew in the ring, Drew grabbed his sword and swung it. Corbin (luckily) ducked. Corbin retreated to ringside and threw a fit. Cole said that’s one way to keep Corbin from interfering. Drew, sword in hand, landed the Claymore on Moss. He made the cover with his foot on Moss’s chest while holding his sword to keep Corbin from interfering.

WINNER: McIntyre in 10:00. (**1/4)

(The match didn’t involve a ton of spots or sequences outside of the ring to play into the match stip, and nothing happened on Drew’s list of things he wanted to do to embarrass Moss. That said, it was hard-hitting and well paced. I’m not sure the match should have continued after that Moss landing, but he didn’t show any signs of being affected. Hopefully he gets a thorough medical evaluation afterward and is closely monitored for the next day or two.)

(5) BECKY LYNCH vs. LITA – Raw Women’s Title match

Lita made her entrance first. Cole said this was Lita’s first “meaningful one-on-one match” in 16 years in WWE. Cole said the winner of this match will be in the main event of WrestleMania defending against Belair. Graves said Lita feels she is playing with house money and she wants to prove she is still who she once was. (Cole’s commentary was basically setting up Lita fans to be happy with a moral victory for just competing somewhat before losing.) The creativity tonight with the women’s outfits have adjusted well to the local social mores where it’s not a distraction how their skin is covered from neckline down. After some early offense by Lita, Becky took over with methodical, grinding offense. She settled into a mid-ring chinlock. Graves said it appears early that Lita is just overmatched. Saxton wondered if she was beginning to feel internal doubt. Lita countered Becky’s attempt at an exploder suplex with a DDT. Both were down and slow to get up. Lita landed a running clothesline in the corner, then a second rope flying body press for a two count. Becky clearly called the next spot as the camera zoomed in on her.

Lita set up a move, but Becky countered into an armbar attempt. Lita rolled her up for a two count. Becky countered for a two count. Becky grabbed the ropes for leverage, but the ref caught her. Lita applied a sleeper. Becky rolled to the bottom rope to force a break. Lita set up a top rope moonsault, but Becky rolled to the floor. Lita went after her on the floor. Becky snapped Lita’s neck over the top rope as they re-entered the ring. Lita used head scissors to take Becky off the top rope. Lita landed a faceplant for a two count. Becky applied a Disarm Her. Lita broke free. Becky hit a quick Manhandle Slam for a near fall. Lita put her boot on the bottom rope to stop the count. Becky dragged Lita to the corner of the ring and went for a top rope moonsault. Lita moved and delivered a Twist of Fate. She then climbed to the top rope and landed a top rope moonsault for a dramatic near fall. Cole said it was shades of 2004. They cut to a shot of fans reacted to the drama. Fans chanted “This is awesome!” Becky then landed a Manhandle Slam for the sudden clean win.

Becky’s music played. Lita was still in the ring. She let a out a big breath and seemed emotional about the moment. She left the ring, but when her music played. she returned to the ring to salute the fans. Cole said she was a trailblazer who helped make nights like this happen.

WINNER: Lynch in 12:00 to retain the Raw Title. (**1/2)

(You could tell Lita wasn’t always sure of her timing, but overall this built well and dramatically. The crowd ate it up, especially the final few minutes.)

(6) THE USOS vs. THE VIKING RAIDER (Erik & Ivar) – Smackdown Tag Team Title match

The Usos attacked the Raiders during their entrance. They beat them up at ringside. Graves called it a brilliant strategy. They delivered stereo superkicks to both Erik and Ivar. They suplexed Ivar onto Erik on the floor. Graves said the Raiders aren’t in any condition to compete. The referees checked on them. The match was called off.

(Huh? What about the fans who paid specifically to see this match?!? Are they running long or what? Those four flew to Saudi Arabia for that?)

WINNERS: Match never officially began.

(7) MEN’S ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH: BOBBY LASHLEY vs. AUSTIN THEORY vs. SETH ROLLINS vs. A.J. STYLES vs. RIDDLE vs. BROCK LESNAR

Lashley came out first. Then Styles, Riddle, Theory, Rollins, and finally Lesnar. It opened with Seth vs. Theory. Seth tossed Theory around ringside including through the wall of Lashley’s pod. Cole noted that Lashley went down hard. Graves said he wasn’t even looking that direction, so he was blindsided. Riddle entered third. Medical personnel were checking on Lashley. Lesnar was shown looking nervously over at the Lashley situation. Seth scored a near fall on Riddle after a superplex. Officials helped Lashley out of the Chamber. He couldn’t even stand up straight. Styles was the fourth entrant. Styles and Seth set up a suplex of Riddle out of the corner. Theory threw them both to the mat. Riddle then landed a Floating Bro for a near fall. Fans chanted “This is awesome!” Riddle delivered a double DDT on Styles and Seth. Riddle was fired up. Next to enter was Lashley, but Lashley was not in his pod. Lesnar just kicked himself out of his pod prematurely and started beating up everybody. Cole said as Lesnar is creating carnage, they have breaking news which they’ll get to in a moment. Lesnar gave Seth an F5 and pinned him. Cole said Lashley is in concussion protocol and won’t return, so they’ll have a new WWE Champion at the conclusion of this match. Lesnar then gave Riddle an F5 and pinned him.

It was down to Lesnar, Styles, and Theory. Lesnar gave Styles a released German suplex. Lesnar gave Styles an F5 and pinned him. Theory pulled himself to his feet and looked over at Lesnar nervously. Lesnar removed his MMA gloves off and tossed them away. Theory backtracked around the Chamber platform around the ring. He then ran full speed and hid in a pod. Lesnar kicked his way through the plexglass and beat up Theory. Theory gave Lesnar a low-blow to stop the mauling. Graves declared Theory has a chance. Theory landed a couple of moves and scored a two count. Lesnar kicked out with authority. Saxton said he can’t even fathom Theory having a chance to beat Lesnar. Cole said he had his chance. Theory climbed the side of the Chamber. Lesnar scaled the side of the Chamber and put Theory on his shoulders. They fought on top of a pod and rammed Theory face-first into the wall. Lesnar the put Theory on his shoulders and gave him an F5 off the roof of the pod. Lesnar climbed back down and yanked Theory to the middle of the ring and scored the three count.

WINNER: Lesnar in 15:00 to become WWE Champion. (**3/4)

(So they got Lashley out of the match to “protect” him from losing, while also giving Lesnar a dominant performance. Seems like there might be more twists to come, including perhaps Lashley facing Lesnar on night one and then Lesnar facing Reigns on night two. Or perhaps Lashley gets a rematch before that. The match itself was fine. They used the Chamber just enough for it not to seem like an empty gimmick, especially the closing minute. WWE doesn’t have a ton of top level stars and Lesnar crushed a few of them in a quick sequence in this match. I marked the star rating down a notch due to Lashley being removed due to a booking strategy, which took away any drama at the end.)
 

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ROH is at least gonna try to come back.

Supercard of Honor is definitely happening in April, and ROH has announced that they intend to return to a TV and PPV schedule after that. The key difference will be that ROH will no longer offer exclusive long term contracts. The only wrestlers with any obligations to the company will be the belt holders, and only while they actually have the belts. They will be bringing in a mixture of AEW, Impact, MLW, Japanese, Mexican, and indie guys and everybody they use will be free to appear on TV for all other promotions. The best commentary team in wrestling will remain intact as Ian Riccaboni and Caprice Coleman are confirmed to return.

The inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class will be inducted this summer. So far:
Jay Briscoe
Mark Briscoe
Bryan Danielson
Samoa Joe

One more person will be inducted alongside them. There are really only a few names worthy of going in with that group:
CM Punk
Cary Silkin (longtime owner and ambassador)
Sumie Sakai (first women's champion, participated in the first women's match, been with the company since 2002, trains and coaches, allowed Japanese import talent like Hiromu Takashi, Kushida, Sho, Yo, EVIL, and more to stay at her home during their extended ROH runs)

It'll probably be Punk, unless they want to have him headline his own class next year.

It's not ideal but it's better than the company going belly-up and selling the 20 years of history to WWE.
 

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Jeff Hardy has signed with AEW.

He gave an interview saying he left WWE because they tried to make him go back to rehab.

So nobody act surprised when he gets another DUI or shows up to another match completely trashed.
 
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One more person will be inducted alongside them. There are really only a few names worthy of going in with that group:
CM Punk
Cary Silkin (longtime owner and ambassador)
Sumie Sakai (first women's champion, participated in the first women's match, been with the company since 2002, trains and coaches, allowed Japanese import talent like Hiromu Takashi, Kushida, Sho, Yo, EVIL, and more to stay at her home during their extended ROH runs)
What... no Rob Feinstein?
 

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What... no Rob Feinstein?
No, because they ran him the fuck outta the company the very instant it became clear what a creep he was.

Unlike WWE, which let Pat Patterson rape ringboys for decades and is run by a guy who raped a referee.
 

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I watched both Impact and New Japan for some reason tonight. Impact is worse than I remember (that's saying a lot), and NJPW is still solid IMO.

Seriously, AEW can't book Jay White any better than they are? I mean, come, on.
 

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I watched both Impact and New Japan for some reason tonight. Impact is worse than I remember (that's saying a lot), and NJPW is still solid IMO.

Seriously, AEW can't book Jay White any better than they are? I mean, come, on.
AEW is booked as badly as any promotion that isn't WWE. It will never be a consistently good show until Tony Khan cedes creative control to someone who actually knows what they're doing. They'll continue to put on some good shows and good matches because the amount of talent they've amassed is absurd, but it'll never be a coherent or consistent show.
 
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I haven't watched Impact in amost 10 years. The way things were going when I stopped, I woudn't be surprised if Aces and Eights was a thing.
 

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AEW is booked as badly as any promotion that isn't WWE. It will never be a consistently good show until Tony Khan cedes creative control to someone who actually knows what they're doing. They'll continue to put on some good shows and good matches because the amount of talent they've amassed is absurd, but it'll never be a coherent or consistent show.

Maybe the answer is to hire more TV writers....













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Tammy "Sunny" Sytch has been arrested again. She was arrested on Thursday on these charges:
– OPERATING UNDER INFLUENCE OF LIQUOR OR DRUGS
– DRIVING AFTER DL/REGISTRATION SUSPENDED/REVOKED
– CARELESS DRIVING: LIKELY TO ENDANGER PERSON OR PROPERTY
– RECKLESS DRIVING
– FAILURE TO WEARSEAT EQUIPMENT-RESPONSIBILITY OF DRIVER
– DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE
– FAIL POSS DRIV LIC
– FAIL TO POSS DRIV REG
– FAIL TO POSS DRIV INS CARD
– FAILURE TO INSTALL INTERLOCK/DRIVE CAR W/O INTERLOCK
– OPERATE MV DURING LICENSE SUSPENSION-2ND VIOLATION

This comes just a few weeks after she was arrested for trying to kill her boyfriend with a pair of scissors.
 
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This last smackdown was a pile of trash shit. Even the website just post the full show video with bad quality.
The WWE just change the line or... It's fucked with AEW.
 

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lol sounds like Braun Strowman and EC3 are starting a maga promotion
report from an "unnamed correspondent" so take it for what you will
"CYN, like many people predicted, is a wrestling promotion that was sold to us as "Bringing Wrestling Back to the base that made it famous in the first place". Since it was a new investment, we needed more information. Here's what we know so far:

Many right-wing affiliated groups and organizations are investing in this (Dan Bongino, Mike Lindell, MULTIPLE supplement companies, crypto firms etc). We also believe Trump is somehow involved, but it was never confirmed. Reason being is we got a glimpse of their touring schedule and New Jersey seems to be a major area they are going to want to perform in, though that could just be because of Pro-Wrestling's popularity in the state in-general.

The idea that was sold to us was a Fight Club inspired wrestling promotion. Ultimately, it will have a set of rules all wrestlers will abide by, but everything is free reign. There is no booker. Very much a "brotherhood" mentality. Expect many "cancelled" wrestlers, though we were told Teddy Hart, Alberto Del Rio, Court Bauer and Brett Lauderdale weren't allowed near CYN. Expect outside athletes from the Bodybuilding and Powerlifting circles to show up.

I believe Brian Cage is hopping to here. They told us a "Big AEW name" was leaving just to come here. I think they were blowing smoke up our asses with the "big" name.

Tessa and her husband are expected to appear. We were told it would be LGBTQ friendly, but the company wouldn't "pander" to certain audiences just because it was a certain month. They consider that "corporate and disingenuous". Very anti-corporate atmosphere.

The Big Thing: They have a major deal with Rumble. I'm not sure if this is the "TV" Deal, but their deal with Rumble is ultimately why our company threw money at this thing. The general consensus among the firm is this will be a great investment for a niche audience, or a giant dumpster fire."
 

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An independently wealthy wrestling fan tried to buy a 50% stake in ROH for 30 million dollars and was rejected. All indications are that ROH is still very much for sale, but there is interest from multiple other promotions as well as other media companies and independent entities. In the meantime the company will return to regular TV tapings in April, and Sinclair is willing to do that indefinitely if nobody wants to come up with a big enough offer.

The going rate for ROH when they were shut down during 2020 was said to be 20-40 million dollars so the price has gone up.

So the brand is still valuable, clearly. Even with nobody under contract, 30 million wasn't enough to get half the company.
 
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