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No, I want an ICU bed to be there for when I get into a crash.
Well that's awful selfish of you when car crashes are quite preventable.
There is a roadmap.
No, I want an ICU bed to be there for when I get into a crash.
Those people should be masked and vaccinated. If they aren’t, they should stay home. Sorry if this makes it hard for you to masturbate in peace.
Expansion of governmental powers here doesn’t need to be another PATRIOT Act. But if people fight back tooth and nail, we will see an expansion that could have been avoided. I’m talking vaccine passports, mandates, and probably stuff we haven’t imagined yet. We need to pick our battles.I am vaccinated to the bare minimum (J&J), can't remember wearing a mask since March but will have decisions to make for my brother's second wedding (well, the reception for the 2020 ceremony at least, same woman) in Boston next week if I am to comply with local mask mandates. When I attended last year I did not follow the MA requirements for out of state travellers regarding a negative test, although I did wear a mask mostly. He already uninvited then reinvited my unvaccinated father that we sent our kids to stay with for a week+ without a thought while we moved last month. Kind of half expecting him to reuninvite my dad between now and next weekend.
I don't go out much because I have always been more apt to stay in than go out and now with two kids even moreso, but still find myself at what would qualify under the old PA orders as large public gatherings about once a week minimum although many are work related. I have been working beer festivals about every other weekend for the last two months.
I guess my frustration with this is largely based in the expansion of an administrative state, the expansion of executive powers, and the compliance of an unthinking populace happy to cede natural rights to bureaucracy. A trend that was admittedly on the rise since well before March 2020. The fact that authority has given up on metrics and moves entirely through mandate and 'we'll let you know when you can go back to your life' only frustrates me further.
My general perception of you and a significant part of the reason I take umbrage with your posts and tone, which you are welcome to counter or correct, is that your work in particular has not been significantly affected by the last 18 months. My work has been, and the dismissal of the importance or value of the restaurant/hospitality/tourism industry by work from home government payroll and government adjacent white collar $100k earners only serves to further piss me off.
You ask this question with the tenor of 'whats the big deal, it's just a mask?', so I've tried to answer in earnest. It truly angers me. Maybe you find it irrational, fine, but I have yet to find compelling evidence for why your (generic you here) fear usurps my basic individual rights to own my life.
*Written with the least intention of later being described as a screed, manifesto, or first signals of a deteriorating mind.
I wear my seatbelt and do not speed outside of road conditions.Well that's awful selfish of you when car crashes are quite preventable.
There is a roadmap.
What the fuck are you talking about? You've just regurgitated the standard dumbass chumpian argument against wearing a mask/getting vaccinated, but with a bit more eloquence.
Expansion of governmental powers here doesn’t need to be another PATRIOT Act. But if people fight back tooth and nail, we will see an expansion that could have been avoided. I’m talking vaccine passports, mandates, and probably stuff we haven’t imagined yet. We need to pick our battles.
And with regard to the surveillance state, why wouldn’t we all be looking for better masks? You can’t fight technology’s crushing undertow.
and yeah, a lot of what you said is part of a political philosophy more than a health focus. Like, you say you got the bare minimum vaccine - why? The effectiveness is poor without a booster. Why take that risk? What point are you proving if you die?
My work has not taken a hit. You’re right. Imagine your financial situation if everyone did everything they were told from the beginning, with masks, getting vaccinated. You would probably not have to look for like minded suburban enclaves.
A big part of this mess is the politicization of science. Just because Trump or Biden say that water is wet, doesn’t mean it’s not. Telling people to mask up and mitigate risk isn’t anti-libertarian. Dying is.
The government telling you to wear a seatbelt is anti-libertarianism.I wear my seatbelt and do not speed outside of road conditions.
Not because I have to but because I want to mitigate risks. Perhaps if behaved in a reckless manner, I would concede your point.
I have never seen a study that shows that slowing down in a school zone reduces child injury and fatalities.The government telling you to slow down in a school zone during certain times is anti-liberalism.
Aren't you horribly overweight?I wear my seatbelt and do not speed outside of road conditions.
Not because I have to but because I want to mitigate risks. Perhaps if behaved in a reckless manner, I would concede your point.
Mr. Libertarian wants the Federal Government to whip out a bunch of anti-clonal antibody treatments.
The government telling you to wear a seatbelt is anti-liberalism.
The government telling you to slow down in a school zone during certain times is anti-liberalism.
And you think you have said anything substantive here (or anywhere else, for that matter) with your fake ass, super patriotic libertarian (but actually just republican) views? What a fuckin’ laugh. I would also invite you to fuck off of the whole forum.
I wear my seatbelt and do not speed outside of road conditions.
Not because I have to but because I want to mitigate risks. Perhaps if behaved in a reckless manner, I would concede your point.
Our medical infrastructure is designed to handle people like me.
Yes.I'm sorry, is this one of those classical liberals vs. modern liberals philosophical debates or did you just mistype anti-libertarianism?
All I care about is that a bed is in the ICU if I need it.
My general philosophy on the role of goverment and the social compact right now is that people should act in thier best interests at all times.
It is up to the goverment to set the rules that promote collectively better outcomes.
You did once blame me for a cop (or maybe a pair of them) being shot in ambush.
Or perhaps you wouldn'tPerhaps if behaved in a reckless manner, I would concede your point.