U.S. Government: 3 centuries in medical experimentation

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And these are just the ones we know of.

http://http://www.naturalnews.com/022383_research_experiments.html

We all know of The Tuskegee Experiments and some of this isn't news to you history/conspiracy buffs on here, but here are some that stood out to me:
--(1950)
(1950 - 1953) The U.S. Army releases chemical clouds over six American and Canadian cities. Residents in Winnipeg, Canada, where a highly toxic chemical called cadmium is dropped, subsequently experience high rates of respiratory illnesses (Cockburn and St. Clair, eds.).

In order to determine how susceptible an American city could be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of Bacillus globigii bacteria from ships over the San Francisco shoreline. According to monitoring devices situated throughout the city to test the extent of infection, the eight thousand residents of San Francisco inhale five thousand or more bacteria particles, many becoming sick with pneumonia-like symptoms (Goliszek).


--(1956 - 1957) U.S. Army covert biological weapons researchers release mosquitoes infected with yellow fever and dengue fever over Savannah, Ga., and Avon Park, Fla., to test the insects' ability to carry disease. After each test, Army agents pose as public health officials to test victims for effects and take pictures of the unwitting test subjects. These experiments result in a high incidence of fevers, respiratory distress, stillbirths, encephalitis and typhoid among the two cities' residents, as well as several deaths (Cockburn and St. Clair, eds.).



--(1985)
A former U.S. Army sergeant tries to sue the Army for using drugs on him in without his consent or even his knowledge in United States v. Stanley, 483 U.S. 669. Justice Antonin Scalia writes the decision, clearing the U.S. military from any liability in past, present or future medical experiments without informed consent (Merritte, et al..


--(1990)
The United States sends 1.7 million members of the armed forces, 22 percent of whom are African-American, to the Persian Gulf for the Gulf War ("Desert Storm"). More than 400,000 of these soldiers are ordered to take an experimental nerve agent medication called pyridostigmine, which is later believed to be the cause of Gulf War Syndrome -- symptoms ranging from skin disorders, neurological disorders, incontinence, uncontrollable drooling and vision problems -- affecting Gulf War veterans (Goliszek; Merritte, et al.).



--(2004)
In his BBC documentary "Guinea Pig Kids" and BBC News article of the same name, reporter Jamie Doran reveals that children involved in the New York City foster care system were unwitting human subjects in experimental AIDS drug trials from 1988 to, in his belief, present times (Doran).


--(2007)
Maryland's governor and public health officials, fed up with the unwillingness of over 2,000 parents to have their children vaccinated, invoke gunpoint medicine yet again by threatening the parents with arrest and up to 30 days of imprisonment if they don't submit their children to state-mandated vaccinations. The children and parents are later rounded up at a county courthouse, guarded by attack dogs and security personnel, while a district Judge oversees the mass injection of schoolchildren with vaccines that contain toxic mercury.
 

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Tuskegee was some fucking racist bullshit.

But the story about cadmium clouds is pretty interesting. Sounds like it didn't end in 1953 though.


The gov't says they are harmless and the story is a hoax, but thanks to the Tuskegee experiments, I can safely assume the worst of these people without getting too far from the truth.
 

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I hate to be a kill joy for a good conspiracy sit in... but Vaccines are a good thing.

Also I love how they just randomly add it what % of the army is black, Like that somehow makes going to war racist... Or that someone in the army hates black people and he would poison the 78% that is non-black on purpose just to get at them...
 

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So, anti-vaccine propaganda?

Only the last one. Seriously, people who don't get their kids vaccinated are dangerous. I blame dumb porn stars.

The other ones aren't surprising though.

The one that comes most quickly to mind is when the government was experimenting with LSD. They'd have some agents drop a tiny bit of LSD in the drinks of others and then take notes and report on the effects. One guy ended up jumping out a window to his death.

Harder to swallow, but still believable, is that they would abduct people in psych wards and experiment on brain washing with LSD and/or electric shock therapy.

And there's also the Bayer incident. It wasn't testing or anything, but from what I remember, Bayer made some pain killers that somehow got contaminated with AIDS. Instead of throwing them out, the sold them in France.

Oh, and then there's the gulf area. BP keeps spraying these chemicals that are supposed to break down the spilled oil, but they're super toxic to humans and animals. Some board re-tested it and said that it really isn't even efficient and there are safer, more practical alternatives. However, BP just keeps spraying the same old stuff. People in the area are bleeding out of their ears and shit.
 

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a possible side effect of flu vaccine is blindness. FUCKING BLINDNESS.

who in their right mind would risk blindness for a week of the flu?

the very elderly and newborns maybe, but then again the flu vaccine is horseshit anyway because it's basically the drug companies guessing what particular strain will be 'dominant' this season

drug companies and government in bed together, just like the banks, trying to push their bullshit products down our throat under the guise of protection
 

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a possible side effect of flu vaccine is blindness. FUCKING BLINDNESS.

who in their right mind would risk blindness for a week of the flu?

the very elderly and newborns maybe, but then again the flu vaccine is horseshit anyway because it's basically the drug companies guessing what particular strain will be 'dominant' this season

drug companies and government in bed together, just like the banks, trying to push their bullshit products down our throat under the guise of protection

Fucking Galfordo doing my work for me, atta boy! :cool:

So much fear mongering and aggressive marketing for the shot and nobody really wanted it....up here the Canadian government just blew it's load all over the idea of transferring even more of our money to yet another sleazebag corporate entity.
 

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I hate to be a kill joy for a good conspiracy sit in... but Vaccines are a good thing.

Also I love how they just randomly add it what % of the army is black, Like that somehow makes going to war racist... Or that someone in the army hates black people and he would poison the 78% that is non-black on purpose just to get at them...

400,000 descendants of an ethnic class that has already been fucked over enough in this country?
 

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a possible side effect of flu vaccine is blindness. FUCKING BLINDNESS.

who in their right mind would risk blindness for a week of the flu?

the very elderly and newborns maybe, but then again the flu vaccine is horseshit anyway because it's basically the drug companies guessing what particular strain will be 'dominant' this season

drug companies and government in bed together, just like the banks, trying to push their bullshit products down our throat under the guise of protection

A possible side effect of driving is getting in a car crash and dying. A possible side effect of being outside in a storm is being baked to death by lightning. Forcing the product down my throat? I dunno about you, but I don't know anyone who actually paid for their vaccine.
 

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A possible side effect of driving is getting in a car crash and dying. A possible side effect of being outside in a storm is being baked to death by lightning. Forcing the product down my throat? I dunno about you, but I don't know anyone who actually paid for their vaccine.

everybody's paying for them you fucking moron

where do you think the government gets all the money they piss away?

whose door do you think the government will be knocking on when they can't pay the interest on their ("our") debt?

your two analogies are facile at best, think about the risk:reward and then compare them with the vaccine's

driving a car gets you to work, which allows you to eat

taking a vaccine gives you a *chance* of not getting the sniffles for a week if you happen to come in contact with whatever bug the drug companies pick that year
 

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A possible side effect of driving is getting in a car crash and dying. A possible side effect of being outside in a storm is being baked to death by lightning. Forcing the product down my throat? I dunno about you, but I don't know anyone who actually paid for their vaccine.

Massive lulz here.
 

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everybody's paying for them you fucking moron

where do you think the government gets all the money they piss away?

whose door do you think the government will be knocking on when they can't pay the interest on their ("our") debt?

your two analogies are facile at best, think about the risk:reward and then compare them with the vaccine's

driving a car gets you to work, which allows you to eat

taking a vaccine gives you a *chance* of not getting the sniffles for a week if you happen to come in contact with whatever bug the drug companies pick that year

Sigh. I must've misplaced my tinfoil hat. At least you have Think Twice and Jenna Jameson & Co. on your side.
 
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You didn't really answer his questions.

Sigh. I must've misplaced my tinfoil hat. At least you have Think Twice and Jenna Jameson & Co. on your side.

So what you're saying is that you don't understand how taxes work, just like galfordo suggested?
 
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Nothing wrong with asking for vaccines that don't have mercury in them.

Yes, it's more expensive to make them without it.

A couple years ago I was trying to get the mercury-free shots for the kids. They gave me the line about them being more expensive. I said, that's fine I'll pay out of pocket. But no, that wasn't an option.

People want to be careful with kids health. Some have suggested links to autism and the like. Sure, the government disputes this association.. but they don't have all the answers either.

I can see where these people were coming from. They weren't trying to dodge vaccines, they were trying to avoid the additive toxic substance.
 

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i just don't know about this younger generation ... :oh_no:

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So what you're saying is that you don't understand how taxes work, just like galfordo suggested?

Yeah, I'll admit he's right about the taxes thing. But saying they're forcing vaccines down our throats? That's like saying "Fast food MADE me fat!" People have to realize there are risks associate with any medication. A lot of these things are even caused by allergies. Yes, you can die from the flu shot... if you're allergic to it's ingredients. Hopefully you have a doctor who didn't get his diploma from his inkjet printer.

edit: And I DO think that there should be readily available mercury-free shots.

Also, I'd like to see some source of info on this blindness deal. All I can find is that it causes temporary blindness which can also be caused by shingles, poisonous plants, and heart issues.
 
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This should be obvious given the events of the past few years, but I'll just say it.

Be careful when dealing with the government, particularly the federal government.

They have made it glaringly obvious that they couldn't care less about your physical, emotional, or financial well being, so when they try to give you something for "free", WATCH OUT.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats these days is basically the difference between the Gattis and the Gambinos (that's Gerald Celente's quote, rings truer than ever). They're all criminals, they're all scumbags.
 

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I've been vaccinated for everything under the sun. Tetnus, Typhoid, small pox (incredibly nasty, the vaccination site forms an open puss oozing sore for about 2 weeks. and your lymph node under your armpit swells so it feels like you've got a golf ball tucked under your arm) etc... the only one I have yet to get is for anthrax.
 

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Nothing wrong with asking for vaccines that don't have mercury in them.

Yes, it's more expensive to make them without it.

A couple years ago I was trying to get the mercury-free shots for the kids. They gave me the line about them being more expensive. I said, that's fine I'll pay out of pocket. But no, that wasn't an option.

People want to be careful with kids health. Some have suggested links to autism and the like. Sure, the government disputes this association.. but they don't have all the answers either.

I can see where these people were coming from. They weren't trying to dodge vaccines, they were trying to avoid the additive toxic substance.

You, sir, are an idiot.

People like the ones mentioned are why fucking smallpox outbreaks are coming back.
 

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I must be public enemy number 1. ive never had a flu vaccine. Lock me up.

I do think some vaccine are worthwhile. For instance, ive had the hep b series voluntarily and other boosters that i dont have to have as an adult voluntarily. But those are all diseases that can cause serious permanent damage. You people are getting bent out of shape over the fucking flu. No wonder we're all turning into pansies.

Btw, if you're vaccinated, why does it matter if no one else is? If the vaccine works, you're protected. SO why force your beliefs on someone else.

PS: im guessing the original intent of this post was suggesting that all the dead birds that fell out of the sky in that area or whatever was caused by the government, to try and get things back on track.
 
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You, sir, are an idiot.

People like the ones mentioned are why fucking smallpox outbreaks are coming back.

I'm an idiot b/c I wanted my kids to have a flu vaccine without mercury? Ok sure.. Honestly I expect a bit better from reading your posts over the years but oh well.

Anyways..

The article doesn't make sense anyways b/c it's pretty difficult to get a childhood vaccine -with- mercury in the last decade or so. Flu is about the only one still hanging on.

But seriously, if the mercury issue was their objection then I don't blame them. It doesn't have to be a question of skipping vaccines altogether, just getting the single-dose variety rather than the multi-dose.

Edit: A bit of Google and it appears that the Maryland case was all about chicken pox and hepatitis B. Fuck that, shouldn't be necessary and shouldn't have been mandated. It also said that many of the kids HAD been immunized as required but could not produce the necessary paperwork, so they were forced to do it again.

The students, in fifth through 10th grade, failed to show proof that they had been vaccinated against chicken pox and hepatitis B, a liver disease typically transmitted through sexual intercourse or shared IV drug needles.

http://www.newsweek.com/2007/11/15/vaccinate-your-kids-or-else.html
 
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