Why haven't any of you doll fuckers started a Game of Thrones topic?

[evil wasabi]

I'd just kill their champion and shit at them afterwards.

And then wipe my ass with their cape.

lol.. Given enough time, every character redeems or destroys themselves. Everyone except Cersei.

 

[Lastblade]

I just finished A Dance with Dragon, and I think GRRM lost it. The book was pretty uneventful for 950+ pages, at least it felt that way and then boom, he dropped the bomb in 2 pages and then leave you with a cliffhanger. I really hate the way he ends EVERY single POV with a cliffhanger, warranted or not. And the fact is, I don't think what happened in end of book V really ended the way you think it ended, so it is more of him toying with you so you will buy his next book.

I am not impressed, I felt the whole Reek POV was boring as shit and can be removed without really affecting the story.

Don't get me started on Feast, that was pretty bad too.

For the record, I loved the first 3 books. They were my favorite for a long long time and love the TV show. But at this point, I really don't care if GRRM died for being such an asshole and the story is never finished. I am that angry

 

[mickO)))]

Got this boxset a few weeks ago must start watching it

 

[Taiso]

I just finished A Dance with Dragon, and I think GRRM lost it. The book was pretty uneventful for 950+ pages, at least it felt that way and then boom, he dropped the bomb in 2 pages and then leave you with a cliffhanger. I really hate the way he ends EVERY single POV with a cliffhanger, warranted or not. And the fact is, I don't think what happened in end of book V really ended the way you think it ended, so it is more of him toying with you so you will buy his next book.

I am not impressed, I felt the whole Reek POV was boring as shit and can be removed without really affecting the story.

Don't get me started on Feast, that was pretty bad too.

For the record, I loved the first 3 books. They were my favorite for a long long time and love the TV show. But at this point, I really don't care if GRRM died for being such an asshole and the story is never finished. I am that angry

I read the books last year, and got through Storm just before the TV show started. I finished Feast about a week befor Dance came out. I was lucky to be able to read all five in one go so for me, from my point of view, I had no issues with the narrative flow of the book at all. I found the end frustrating because, well...you read the book. You know.

But if I was one of the people that waited 6 years for this book, I'd be pretty pissed by how it ends. I'd be demanding the next book immediately. After a six year wait, it's so unfair to those loyal fans who stuck it through to be asked to wait when the ending is ciffhanger the height of the Wall itself.

The ending doesn't invalidate the quality of the entire book, but those people waited such a long time only to be told "tune in next time to see what happens to..." It's kinda bullshit.

If he was a writer that pumped them out reliably every year or two, no big deal. But Martin was a contemporary of Robert Jordan's. They got along. Does he really want to reward his loyal, long time fans by dying on them before he finishes the story and leaving it up to someone else the way Jordan had to do with Sanderson and The Wheel of Time? I'm sure the Sanderson books are good because he's a good fantasy author, but still. I want the end of the story to be written by the guy that started it. And I want it to be good.

 

[Castor Troy]

Thought this was pretty funny.

 

[evil wasabi]

How timely. But until Obama has midget jousting at his party, I won't be afraid.

 

[Taiso]

 

[evil wasabi]

ok, done with the books, and I have to say they really bring up a lot of awesome themes. Selmy is a complete badass. He doesn't try to look scary or intimidating, but if put to the test he will fuck your shit up, even though he is long past the springtime of his youth.

Best line in all the books was in the epilogue of ADWD, explaining what makes someone fit to rule. It was incredibly powerful.

 

[Taiso]

I'd read a prequel about Tywin Lannister's early days.

And Strong Belwas.

 

[Taiso]

 

[evil wasabi]

Fact.

 

[Comrade Porn King Mikhail]

Taiso, start saving up and skip your next car purchase.

http://store.hbo.com/game-of-throne...tail.php?p=373634&v=hbo_shows_game-of-thrones

 

[Taiso]

That would look great with my authentic rug from Neo-Geo World at its base.

Yeah, I think I'd make my own Iron Throne before I'd buy that.

I DO want a replica of Eddard's sword Ice, however. Ice isn't a big deal in the TV show, but in the books it's frequently mentioned, especially early on. So I'd presume that the sword Eddard uses to behead that deserter in the first episode is Ice. I want a replica of that sword.

I've seen some renditions of Ice, but I've never been satisfied by them. But the one in the show...that is pretty much exactly how I'd imagined it looking.

 

[Comrade Porn King Mikhail]

I've seen some renditions of Ice, but I've never been satisfied by them. But the one in the show...that is pretty much exactly how I'd imagined it looking.

Only one with decent reviews I've seen has been Valyrian Steel:

http://www.valyriansteel.com/shop/swords/ice-sword-of-eddard-stark/prod_11.html

I don't remember if I first found this site from this thread or from the official show Facebook page link. I don't think my gf would allow me to have this hanging up anywhere.

 

[LoneSage]

Been watching this for the past few weeks. Loved season 1. Season 2, not as great, still good. I find the romantic subplots (Tyrion-Shae/Robb-whoever that nurse girl is) boring. Interesting to see Danaerys's character change so dramatically.

I finally decided to post in this thread, though, because the episode I just finished kinda sucked. It was the siege of Westeros and everything about it felt so small, so low-budget. Four eye rolling moments:
1. Joffrey pointing out the ships. Surely someone else would have seen them.
2. Stannis (or however you spell it) climbing up the wall and killing a bunch of guards. You think there'd be more men that could have taken on one guy.
3. Tyrion with his axe chopping a dude's leg clean off and then killing him as the blood spurt out from a place he didn't strike.
4. How do the Free Men know what's going on south of the wall. One of them knew Eddard Stark had died. How.

Only part I did like was seeing the Hound afraid of fire and beginning to live for himself. Oh, and the whole wildfire part too.
So what did you guys think of that episode? I feel I might be in the minority of disliking this episode but it did very little for me.

The highlight of season 2 is Theon's heel turn. Dude turned into a complete shit and just keeps digging himself deeper.

edit: Jaime reminds me of wasabi

 

[Sherlin]

Daario has been cast.

 

[LoneSage]

Jaqen was one of the best parts of season 2. Cool character. So cool that if I were a child I'd probably act like him for a week, speaking in third person.

Just finished the last episode of season 2. DUDES SEASON 3 IS GONNA ROCK

 

[Taiso]

1. Joffrey pointing out the ships. Surely someone else would have seen them.
2. Stannis (or however you spell it) climbing up the wall and killing a bunch of guards. You think there'd be more men that could have taken on one guy.
3. Tyrion with his axe chopping a dude's leg clean off and then killing him as the blood spurt out from a place he didn't strike.
4. How do the Free Men know what's going on south of the wall. One of them knew Eddard Stark had died. How.

1.) Probably a 'TV decision' to keep the important information filtering through characters the TV audience recognizes. Not a major problem IMO, but there would probably be lookouts to signal their arrival.

2.) Those castle battlements were very narrow, Stannis Baratheon is a superb warrior who, unlike Robert, never lost his edge and who knows how to fight in narrow spaces. He held Storm's End against vastly superior forces during Robet's rebellion and there were probably many battles on those walls. Plus, read any account of soldiers on the field during medieval battles (the Crusades is a good place to start.)

Furthermore, the mere presence of a noted warrior in austere times would strike fear into others and cause them to be less effective in battle. Richard I, who led his troops in combat, should have been killed a million times over but no Saracen could ever land the blow, and his name was feared to the point where it probably made others blanche before him. I disagree with you on this point; it is POSSIBLE, although perhaps foolhardy, for Stannis to do what he did in a pseudo-historical context.

3.) In the books, Tyrion fights in the battle at the end of the first novel and again at Blackwater. But in the books, he's described as possessing a great degree of agility and acrobatic skill, although he's more of a reader and intellectual person than one of action. In the book, Martin can get away with that because it's narrative and he's not dealing with an economy of time to rationalize it. In a TV show, it's obvious Peter Dinklage does not possess the physical agility to be involved in battles. For a little guy, he's spry, but it's more of a stretch. Is it POSSIBLE? Yes, but highly improbable.

As for the blood gaffe...meh. Not an issue.

4.) The Wildlings know what's going on south of the Wall because

Spoiler:

They've been sneaking people back and forth for years to gather information for Manse Rayder in anticipation of his big push south. The third book and season will expound on this.

As for The Tyrion/Shae dynamic and the Robb/Talisa dynamic, note a couple of things here:

Tyrion's relationship with Shae isn't really the point. This is more about Tyrion's damage as a person than about realizing Shae as a fully developed character. Keep watching. You'll understand as the story unfolds.

The Robb/Talisa dynamic is more interesting because it shows Robb's reserves of honor and patience finally breaking down. Robb Stark, the son of Eddard, made a promise to wed the daughter of Waldor Frey in exchange for passage across The Twins. But that didn't mean anything in the end because they still weren't fast enough to get to King's Landing to lay siege to the city and rescue Eddard.

He had the Kingslayer in his grasp and his mother let him go against his wishes. That caused more strife and chaos amongst his followers than he is presently able to deal with. Everyone's in his ear giving him advice and he's seeing that being a leader is about more than bold causes and noble efforts. The administration is something he never realy expected. It wears on a man, and Robb is just too young to deal with it.

Talisa represents his break from the traditions that Eddard layed down. With no one to guide him, and pulled in so many directions at once, he finally caved in and surrendered to his urges. It's been all 'give, give, give' for Robb to this point. He finally got fed up and took something for himself, which is NOT the Stark way. He's become, in a sense, corrupted by the world beyond Winterfell at last.

It doesn't mean he's going to suddenly turn evil or anything. Robb is still basically a godo person. Just like Eddard. And like Eddard, you're supposed to think that Robb is very much a younger version of his father in all things, even breaking his vows to follow his heart.

But there's a swerve going on here. Read at your peril:

Spoiler:

Robb's betrayal of his vow to Waldor Frey is supposed to somehow be a mirror to Ned's infidelity that resulted in John's birth. But since it's obvious to anyone that's read the books, knows the lore and can read between the lines that Ned is NOT John's father, it's not a mirror at all. So this makes Robb less of a mirror of Ned and more of his own person, which is more interesting.

 

[Comrade Porn King Mikhail]

Thanks for the explanations. I barely resisted opening the last spoiler. Probably for the best so as not to ruin anything serious.

Finishing up the first audio book, amazingly easy to pay attention and enjoy in the car.

 

[evil wasabi]

1.) Probably a 'TV decision' to keep the important information filtering through characters the TV audience recognizes. Not a major problem IMO, but there would probably be lookouts to signal their arrival.

2.) Those castle battlements were very narrow, Stannis Baratheon is a superb warrior who, unlike Robert, never lost his edge and who knows how to fight in narrow spaces. He held Storm's End against vastly superior forces during Robet's rebellion and there were probably many battles on those walls. Plus, read any account of soldiers on the field during medieval battles (the Crusades is a good place to start.)

Furthermore, the mere presence of a noted warrior in austere times would strike fear into others and cause them to be less effective in battle. Richard I, who led his troops in combat, should have been killed a million times over but no Saracen could ever land the blow, and his name was feared to the point where it probably made others blanche before him. I disagree with you on this point; it is POSSIBLE, although perhaps foolhardy, for Stannis to do what he did in a pseudo-historical context.

3.) In the books, Tyrion fights in the battle at the end of the first novel and again at Blackwater. But in the books, he's described as possessing a great degree of agility and acrobatic skill, although he's more of a reader and intellectual person than one of action. In the book, Martin can get away with that because it's narrative and he's not dealing with an economy of time to rationalize it. In a TV show, it's obvious Peter Dinklage does not possess the physical agility to be involved in battles. For a little guy, he's spry, but it's more of a stretch. Is it POSSIBLE? Yes, but highly improbable.

As for the blood gaffe...meh. Not an issue.

4.) The Wildlings know what's going on south of the Wall because

Spoiler:

They've been sneaking people back and forth for years to gather information for Manse Rayder in anticipation of his big push south. The third book and season will expound on this.

As for The Tyrion/Shae dynamic and the Robb/Talisa dynamic, note a couple of things here:

Tyrion's relationship with Shae isn't really the point. This is more about Tyrion's damage as a person than about realizing Shae as a fully developed character. Keep watching. You'll understand as the story unfolds.

The Robb/Talisa dynamic is more interesting because it shows Robb's reserves of honor and patience finally breaking down. Robb Stark, the son of Eddard, made a promise to wed the daughter of Waldor Frey in exchange for passage across The Twins. But that didn't mean anything in the end because they still weren't fast enough to get to King's Landing to lay siege to the city and rescue Eddard.

He had the Kingslayer in his grasp and his mother let him go against his wishes. That caused more strife and chaos amongst his followers than he is presently able to deal with. Everyone's in his ear giving him advice and he's seeing that being a leader is about more than bold causes and noble efforts. The administration is something he never realy expected. It wears on a man, and Robb is just too young to deal with it.

Talisa represents his break from the traditions that Eddard layed down. With no one to guide him, and pulled in so many directions at once, he finally caved in and surrendered to his urges. It's been all 'give, give, give' for Robb to this point. He finally got fed up and took something for himself, which is NOT the Stark way. He's become, in a sense, corrupted by the world beyond Winterfell at last.

It doesn't mean he's going to suddenly turn evil or anything. Robb is still basically a godo person. Just like Eddard. And like Eddard, you're supposed to think that Robb is very much a younger version of his father in all things, even breaking his vows to follow his heart.

But there's a swerve going on here. Read at your peril:

Spoiler:

Robb's betrayal of his vow to Waldor Frey is supposed to somehow be a mirror to Ned's infidelity that resulted in John's birth. But since it's obvious to anyone that's read the books, knows the lore and can read between the lines that Ned is NOT John's father, it's not a mirror at all. So this makes Robb less of a mirror of Ned and more of his own person, which is more interesting.

Dinklage may not be as nimble as Tyrion, but he better learn how to ride a sow and a dog.

 

[Taiso]

Ironically, the seeds for my second spoiler were planted throughout the first book. If you look very closely in the narrative of the first novel, it's all right there if you read between the lines. I only hid it because it's respectful to those readers that haven't picked up on it just yet.

The first spoiler, about the Wildlings' amazing intelligence, is something that hasnt been revealed by the end of the second novel/season. You learn about it during the third book. It COULD appear in the third season, but as the book is being split into two seasons, there's no telling how they'll restructure events and choose to reveal plot points. I would EXPECT the reveal in the third season, but TV has a funny way of needing to twist a source's materials to suit the medium and audience preferences. We'll see.

 

[Taiso]

Dinklage may not be as nimble as Tyrion, but he better learn how to ride a sow and a dog.

I'm REALLY looking forward to the interaction between

Spoiler:

Tyrion and Sansa. Truth be told, I don't believe that relationship is completely over in the novels..

 

[Lee Gray]

Never watched it but saw this fit chick from it at last weeks convention called Sahara Knite, had my pic taken with her and checked her out online when got home, seems she does porn so checked her out on xhamsters and shes a right dirty one, very pretty though.

 

[evil wasabi]

Cool meeting Sahara. She's ok. I classify her as semi-soft porn. I have seen a lot of her stuff and I would say at the very least she doesn't do anything degrading. But the production value on her porn leaves a lot to be desired. They need better equipment, better cameras, better lighting.

 

[Taiso]

S3 teaser:

And a funny I found about Martin and Rowling having lunch: