ShootTheCore
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Let me know if you circle around to Picard eventually. I watched Episode 6 of Season 2 last night, and man oh man do I have strong opinions.
Speaking of Discovery, what a great name for a Star Trek show that would have been. Sad trombone.
This season to me seems like it could have fit neatly just as one episode of stng instead of being drawn out this much for a whole season.Let me know if you circle around to Picard eventually. I watched Episode 6 of Season 2 last night, and man oh man do I have strong opinions.
Let me know if you circle around to Picard eventually. I watched Episode 6 of Season 2 last night, and man oh man do I have strong opinions.
I treat the whole thing as an alternate, semi-parallel universe, rather than as a continuation of the TNG tv series. At most, I might consider it a sequel to the TNG movies, which I also consider a parallel universe to the tv show. The writing was so bad and the characters so drastically and fundamentally different in the movies than they'd been for 7 years on tv, I just couldn't reconcile them.From season 1 I thought it was really lame that Hugh died.
I treat the whole thing as an alternate, semi-parallel universe, rather than as a continuation of the TNG tv series. At most, I might consider it a sequel to the TNG movies, which I also consider a parallel universe to the tv show. The writing was so bad and the characters so drastically and fundamentally different in the movies than they'd been for 7 years on tv, I just couldn't reconcile them.
So in my mind, in the TNG tv universe, there is no such thing as a Borg Queen, and Hugh is probably still alive.
Which TNG movie do you prefer the most of the bunch? I didn’t like it at first, but I would consider Insurrection to be my favorite of the bunch because it seems the most like a (subpar) episode of the tv show.I treat the whole thing as an alternate, semi-parallel universe, rather than as a continuation of the TNG tv series. At most, I might consider it a sequel to the TNG movies, which I also consider a parallel universe to the tv show. The writing was so bad and the characters so drastically and fundamentally different in the movies than they'd been for 7 years on tv, I just couldn't reconcile them.
So in my mind, in the TNG tv universe, there is no such thing as a Borg Queen, and Hugh is probably still alive.
The Federation is in a slump. The Dominion War combined with Romulus being destroyed unfortunately created a "us first" mentality. It's a big part of the story arc.
That arc got a lot of criticism from fans who think the Federation should forever be the ironclad Mary Sue of the galaxy, but personally I like that they showed a version of the Federation that's not what it's always been. Galactic calamities have consequences.
That's why I think DS9 is a fantastic sf show, but not always a good Star Trek show (although more than a few times, it is a great Star Trek show).But the latter half of DS9 really was the “dark side of trek.”
Yeah, I'd say the same for exactly the same reason. But even with that one, I don't really consider them the same characters from the tv show.Which TNG movie do you prefer the most of the bunch? I didn’t like it at first, but I would consider Insurrection to be my favorite of the bunch because it seems the most like a (subpar) episode of the tv show.
It has nothing to do with wanting the Federation to be a Mary Sue (there's an overused term). It has to do with wanting to believe in a positive future where humanity has evolved past its pettiness and bigotry, which is what Star Trek used to represent. We don't need it to be a nightmarish and corrupt dystopia. Not only are there a billion other shows and movies covering that ground to death, but we're also living it right now.That arc got a lot of criticism from fans who think the Federation should forever be the ironclad Mary Sue of the galaxy
I liked Gul Dukat for a good while through it, there was an ambiguity to him from the outset. The idea that he and Kira might be able to see eye to eye on anything was full of potential. They got lazy though, fucked it off and made him a pantomime villain in the end.Garack is the best DS9 character.
The Federation wasn't a nightmarish or corrupt dystopia in Picard. They became isolationist and reluctant to help a long time bitter enemy. The crux of their story arc was them overcoming that.That's why I think DS9 is a fantastic sf show, but not always a good Star Trek show (although more than a few times, it is a great Star Trek show).
Yeah, I'd say the same for exactly the same reason. But even with that one, I don't really consider them the same characters from the tv show.
It has nothing to do with wanting the Federation to be a Mary Sue (there's an overused term). It has to do with wanting to believe in a positive future where humanity has evolved past its pettiness and bigotry, which is what Star Trek used to represent. We don't need it to be a nightmarish and corrupt dystopia. Not only are there a billion other shows and movies covering that ground to death, but we're also living it right now.
Sisko became one with The Prophets.The Dominion War really killed the Cardassian/Bejoran/Spiritual Exploration storyline.
Not that I was in love with the religious stuff but religion and religious belief was something not necessarily explored.
Does Sisko die at the end? I can never remember other than he like fights a demon in hell, or…something.
Sisko became one with The Prophets.
why thoughI really, really, really want to like this show.
Section 31 has no bones about who they admit. They've always been about "whatever it takes to protect Starfleet's interests". Who better than Space Hitler to get things done without moral boundaries? They get deeper into this as the season goes on.LMFAO they let the Emperor of Terra, literal SPACE HITLER, in to…Section 31?!
Fuck me.
I really, really, really want to like this show. Truly I do, but some of this is just too much.
And sorry this is my Trek hot take thread.