Shining Force CD...need moar

pixeljunkie · Nov 29, 2022

So, I just finished Shining Force CD on the Gen Mini 2. Great game, honestly. I just wish they had mixed up the level music a bit. 20+ hrs of the same tune. Ouch.

Is this story continued in any other Shining Force? Because I would really like to hop to that next.

Edit: looks like SF2 is the continuation? I played SF CD as the first one - is there an ideal order?

Moob Butter · Nov 29, 2022

Up to you, either go back to 1 as a prequel, or on to 2 as a sequel. Great games. https://www.shiningforcecentral.com/?p=studies&c=chronology

Thanks for reminding me, I’ve been meaning to give the Japanese only but fan translated Sega Saturn chapters a go.

pixeljunkie · Nov 29, 2022

Awesome, I'm not sure if I can play these back to back in a timely manner, so I'll probably just jump straight into 2

GohanX · Nov 29, 2022

Don’t forget about the third GG game, it has an English fan translation and is very good.

Syn · Nov 29, 2022

Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict for the GG and SF Feather for NDS are fun often overlooked games.

pixeljunkie · Nov 29, 2022

Isn't Gaiden Final Conflict the same as SF CD?

GohanX · Nov 30, 2022

No, there are three Game Gear games. Shining Force CD remakes the first two.

pixeljunkie · Nov 30, 2022

GohanX said:
No, there are three Game Gear games. Shining Force CD remakes the first two.

hot damn, downloading that now - thanks!

GohanX · Nov 30, 2022

It's really great, I played through it on my 3DS a few years back after clearing CD. Such wonderful games.

roker · Nov 30, 2022

1 and 2 on the Genesis were some of the best Strategy/RPGs ever made if not my favorite of all time. I still haven't gotten around to playing the Sega CD version.

Moob Butter · Nov 30, 2022

roker said:
1 and 2 on the Genesis were some of the best Strategy/RPGs ever made if not my favorite of all time. I still haven't gotten around to playing the Sega CD version.

I sorta prefer the CD version as it doesn’t have the lame pseudo rpg walk around bits between battles.

roker · Nov 30, 2022

GohanX said:
No, there are three Game Gear games. Shining Force CD remakes the first two.

Are you referring to this game?

Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Syn · Nov 30, 2022

roker said:
Are you referring to this game?

Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes!

k'_127 · Dec 1, 2022

Shining Force 1&2 are great and a must IMO. Haven't played Shining Force 3 (Saturn).

Shining Force Gaiden 1&2 (game gear) got remade into Shining Force CD, which you played.

Shining Force Gaiden 3 remained game gear-only, but there is an excellent translation patch.

There is a Shinig Force 1 Remake on GBA. Heard it's excellent, but I haven't played it.

Other games in the series by the same studio, but not part of the Shining Force line:

- Shining in the Darkness on Genesis (dungeon crawler, the first Shining game)

- Shining the Holy Arc on Saturn (sequel to Shining in the Darkness)

- Shining Wisdom on Saturn: Plays like a 2D Zelda. I remember not liking it.

The studio was bought by Nintendo later and made the Golden Sun series. Personally enjoyed them, but not sure I would recommend them to others though (text-heavy).

Also, highly recommending Vandal Hearts 1&2 on PS1. Great S. RPG's.

pixeljunkie · Dec 1, 2022

k'_127 said:
Shining Force 1&2 are great and a must IMO. Haven't played Shining Force 3 (Saturn).

Shining Force Gaiden 1&2 (game gear) got remade into Shining Force CD, which you played.

Shining Force Gaiden 3 remained game gear-only, but there is an excellent translation patch.

There is a Shinig Force 1 Remake on GBA. Heard it's excellent, but I haven't played it.

Other games in the series by the same studio, but not part of the Shining Force line:

- Shining in the Darkness on Genesis (dungeon crawler, the first Shining game)

- Shining the Holy Arc on Saturn (sequel to Shining in the Darkness)

- Shining Wisdom on Saturn: Plays like a 2D Zelda. I remember not liking it.

The studio was bought by Nintendo later and made the Golden Sun series. Personally enjoyed them, but not sure I would recommend them to others though (text-heavy).

Also, highly recommending Vandal Hearts 1&2 on PS1. Great S. RPG's.

that's a damn good list

Moob Butter · Dec 1, 2022

Not a Shining Force game, but Mystaria: The Realms of Lore is something of a hidden gem on Saturn which plays alot like the Shining Force series. I think it’s called Blazing Heroes in the USA.

pixeljunkie · Dec 1, 2022

madmanjox said:
Not a Shining Force game, but Mystaria: The Realms of Lore is something of a hidden gem on Saturn which plays alot like the Shining Force series. I think it’s called Blazing Heroes in the USA.

woof...that's CHONKY

Moob Butter · Dec 1, 2022

Oh yeah, graphically it looks like ass. 3d rendered sprites were all the rage for a while after Donkey Kong Country.

Soundtrack was good though.

Neo Alec · Dec 1, 2022

If you want more Shining Force 3 English voice acting, get the new Need for Speed game.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597657690544963584

k'_127 · Dec 3, 2022

Honorable mentions:

Arc the Lad 1&2 (ps1): not as enjoyable / deep, but in the same vein. The official English translation hinders the story.

Valkyrie Chronicles (ps3 and all modern platforms): plays differently, but shares the same strategic aspect and the story is nice. Heard good things about VC4 as well. VC2 / VC3 remain PSP-only, and are not necessary to jump into VC4 after VC1.

NeoSneth · Dec 4, 2022

Shining Force III on the saturn holds up very well. They made sure the fight scenes loaded fast which was a concern for the CD platforms.
All 3 chapters are translated.

Pretty Amy · Dec 4, 2022

k'_127 said:
- Shining Wisdom on Saturn: Plays like a 2D Zelda. I remember not liking it.

You can drive a car in it which Zelda was never brave enough to do:

I remember liking the game. It's no Zelda, but it's still fun.

pixeljunkie · Dec 5, 2022

So, I'm a few hours into Shining Force 2...man, I wish I had played these back when they came out but I was too into action games. This game is badass.

Again, without the forced curated collection of the Gen Mini 2, I'd NEVER give these games a serious go.

Edit: also already like this more than SF CD. It just has more going on.

Neo Alec · Dec 6, 2022

pixeljunkie said:
Again, without the forced curated collection of the Gen Mini 2, I'd NEVER give these games a serious go.

I'm happy for you, but come on though. You don't need a mini console to know about the Shining Force games. I know a guy who's not even a nerd who likes them.

pixeljunkie · Dec 6, 2022

Neo Alec said:
I'm happy for you, but come on though. You don't need a mini console to know about the Shining Force games. I know a guy who's not even a nerd who likes them.

Hahah I agree. But with a million devices that play ALL TEH ROMZ, I never find myself focusing on games like this. Honestly, I find myself flipping channels more than anything. I just find these make me chill out and pick something from the virtual shelf and actually play it.

It's really about my ADHD and inability to focus on something when presented with sensory overload/lists of games to play.

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