Who cares what either of those two Nostradumbasses say?
You read one article in Rupert Murdoch land and think you know something.
Trump will win the 2020 election
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Who cares what either of those two Nostradumbasses say?
You read one article in Rupert Murdoch land and think you know something.
304 to 227? He crushed her.
Biden might be ahead according to some polls right now, but watch him get butt fucked to death come the debates +some last minute sleaze come to the fore. Bush Jr got gains around the last leg of his candidacy for a second term.
It's a different world/play field than it was then, granted.
It's a different world/play field than it was then, granted.
According to various polls, Trump is doing better than he was against Clinton at this point in the proceedings. It's pretty safe to predict Trump will lose the popular vote again but they are within the margin of error in the swing states. It really could go either way.
Nationally, yes. It's a different story if you look at it state by state.
A <1% change in 3 states and he loses.
Yeah. I feel those undecided voters are scared of the protesters. Trump's plan is working.
I think Biden is going to win a larger portion of the popular vote than Hillary did in 2016. Whether the votes are distributed in a way that also gives him an electoral college victory is up in the air though.
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Hell, the proof is that even Biden is campaigning as a law and order candidate now.
Because this is just another repeat of 2016 in my eyes.
Even with all the social unrest going on, all I see is the same political polarization ramped up to 11 in both sides.
I don't trust any of the 'science'.
I don't trust any of the 'data' or 'polling' and I won't rely on it to project a winner. Relying on these numbers and the predictions of 'experts who have predicted every presidency since 198X' comes off to me as disingenuous, especially in an election year like this one.
It's all brinksmanship as far as I'm concerned.
He's winning again in 2020. If I'm wrong, so be it.
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I'll counter that In 2016, you had some people who supported Trump, many people who supported Clinton, and many who thought we should elect someone who wasn't part of the system - someone who would bring change. Those people may still want change. We have countless testimonials from people who claimed they voted for Trump, and regret it. We have no testimonials from people who claimed they vote for Hillary, but feel they made a mistake. In short, I think the change people will vote to change out the system again, and this time, that means voting against Trump.
I would also imagine that many of the "undecideds" are wondering what happened with the stock market over the past 4 years, the obvious grift that was occurring. While most Americans don't have savings, or investments, a lot has changed over the past 4 years with Robinhood and other brokerages shifting to feeless transactions, so people are now more aware of the market activity, and the consequences of Trump's statements, tweets, decisions regarding the fed, and the China trade war.
I also imagine that many of his hispanic voters have been drained from seeing other spanish speakers locked in cattle cages.
Finally, I don't think that campaigns happen in a vacuum. People don't always vote for candidates. There's a social programming from the top levels, that permits messaging to the bottom. This is why I asked about the Spacing Guild yesterday. When the WSJ said that they expect the stock market to rise 14% with Biden over Trump a few weeks ago, that was where I figured that Wall Street has greenlit the transition from Trump to Biden.
I would also imagine that many of the "undecideds" are wondering what happened with the stock market over the past 4 years, the obvious grift that was occurring. While most Americans don't have savings, or investments, a lot has changed over the past 4 years with Robinhood and other brokerages shifting to feeless transactions, so people are now more aware of the market activity, and the consequences of Trump's statements, tweets, decisions regarding the fed, and the China trade war.
I also imagine that many of his hispanic voters have been drained from seeing other spanish speakers locked in cattle cages.
Finally, I don't think that campaigns happen in a vacuum. People don't always vote for candidates. There's a social programming from the top levels, that permits messaging to the bottom. This is why I asked about the Spacing Guild yesterday. When the WSJ said that they expect the stock market to rise 14% with Biden over Trump a few weeks ago, that was where I figured that Wall Street has greenlit the transition from Trump to Biden.
You do understand that pro-Trump voices basically represents less than 30% of the vote.
You need the voices that aren't Biden or Trump. That's where I see Trump facing a problem.
Unless of course the election is rigged.
Supporters are going to take him seriously, try it, and wind up in jail.
I'm a lot less sure of a Biden win than I was a few weeks ago, but I'll wait another two weeks for the convention effect to fade before seriously reassessing things.
Just going to throw this out there:
The ~*Model*~ said:
Those are definitely 100% jokes.
do you have a link for that? It's pretty wow.
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1301190941110341632
found it
wow
Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything for me to link to aside from Silver's tweet. 