Boxing thread

[famicommander]

Nate Robinson got KTFO

 

[sr20det510]

Nate Robinson got KTFO

Sure did! He should of stayed down after the first knock down.

 

[famicommander]

Well that was a sad main event. Roy's legs are completely gone and they put him in a tiny ring. All he could do is hold, and that's all he did do.

They should've both stayed retired.

 

[sr20det510]

Well that was a sad main event. Roy's legs are completely gone and they put him in a tiny ring. All he could do is hold, and that's all he did do.

They should've both stayed retired.

My wife said, "Roy Jones has that old man walk."

 

[StevenK]

Well that was a sad main event. Roy's legs are completely gone and they put him in a tiny ring. All he could do is hold, and that's all he did do.

They should've both stayed retired.

I saw a lot of former boxers saying how great it was. I guess they saw Tyson's $10m paycheck and thought let's try and make a thing out of this.

 

[famicommander]

Errol Spence vs Danny Garcia this weekend for the WBC/IBF World Welterweight Titles.

Can't wait.

Spence's advantages:
-size
-reach
-power
-foot speed
-punch output

Garcia's advantages:
-hand speed
-defense
-chin (Garcia has never even been rocked in a fight, much less knocked down or hurt)
-accuracy
-technique

This is the classic puncher vs counter puncher fight. Two of the very best in any division, and they're both fighting at their normal weights. Neither of them are old, neither of them are moving up or down in weight, neither of them are coming off a loss. This prime vs prime, best vs best and I can't wait.

 

[famicommander]

Another great win for Spence. Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Danny Garcia in three straight fights is fantastic.

We have to get either Spence vs Pacquiao or Spence vs Crawford next.

 

[sr20det510]

Another great win for Spence. Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Danny Garcia in three straight fights is fantastic.

We have to get either Spence vs Pacquiao or Spence vs Crawford next.

Good fight once again for Spence.
He should fight Crawford next, but Pac-Man will get him a bigger paycheck.

 

[famicommander]

Good fight once again for Spence.
He should fight Crawford next, but Pac-Man will get him a bigger paycheck.

They're clearly the top 3 fighters right now so any combination of them fighting is good. The odd man out should fight Porter or Thurman or Ugas.

 

[famicommander]

Compubox doesn't always tell the story, but in this case it does. Danny couldn't land the jab, Spence could. That was the difference.

 

[famicommander]

Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr did over 1.6 million PPV buys.

That is more than:
-Every UFC PPV in history except McGregor vs Khabib (2.4m)
-both GGG vs Canelo fights
-Every Floyd Mayweather PPV except vs Canelo (2.2 m), De La Hoya (2.4m), McGregor (4.3m), and Pacquiao (4.6m)

That is the same number Tyson did against Holyfield the first time and bigger than every other Tyson fight except Holyfield II (1.99m) and Lewis (1.97m)

 

[famicommander]

Big Saturday for boxing

1:00 PM Eastern on DAZN:
Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev, 12 rounds, for Joshua's WBA, WBO, IBF, and IBO heavyweight titles
Lawrence Okolie vs. Nikodem Jezewski, 12 rounds, cruiserweights
Hughie Fury vs. Mariusz Wach, 10 rounds, heavyweights
Martin Bakole vs. Sergey Kuzmin, 10 rounds, heavyweights
Kieron Conway vs. Macaulay McGowen, 10 rounds, junior middleweights
Florian Marku vs. Jamie Stewart, 8 rounds, welterweights
Qais Ashfaq vs. Ashley Lane, TBA rounds, junior featherweights

ESPN+ Starting at 7:00 PM eastern, main card ESPN starting at 10:00 PM Eastern
Shakur Stevenson vs. Toka Khan Clary, 10 rounds, junior lightweights
Felix Verdejo vs. Masayoshi Nakatani, 10 rounds, lightweights
Edgar Berlanga vs. Ulises Sierra, 8 rounds, super middleweights
Elvis Rodriguez vs. Larry Fryers, 6 rounds, welterweights
Clay Collard vs. Quincy LaVallais, 8 rounds, middleweights
Robeisy Ramirez vs. Brandon Valdes, 8 rounds, featherweights
Jesse Rodriguez vs. Saul Juarez, 6 or 8 rounds, junior flyweights
Haven Brady Jr. vs. Michael Land, 4 rounds, featherweights
Kasir Goldston vs. Llewelyn McClamy, 4 rounds, welterweights

Showtime starting at 9:00 PM Eastern:
Chris Colbert vs. Jaime Arboleda, 12 rounds, for Colbert's WBA interim junior lightweight title
Ronald Ellis vs. Matvey Korobov, 10 rounds, middleweights
Richardson Hitchins vs. Argenis Mendez, 10 rounds, junior welterweights

 

[famicommander]

BKFC is going to start promoting lethwei fights next month.

If you're not familiar, lethwei is also known as Burmese boxing. The rules:
-bare knuckle with hand wraps
-punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and headbutts legal
-clinch fighting allowed
-throws, sweeps, takedowns are allowed

The fights will take place in Thailand with established Muay Thai and Lethwei fighters from Thailand and Burma.

They will air on the Bare Knuckle TV app, which now includes every BKFC event, the new lethwei fights, and the Toe the Line Fight Series which is a feeder league for BKFC. 4 bucks a month.

 

[famicommander]

Joshua did what he was supposed to do.

Pulev was in his prime 6 years ago when an aged Wlad blasted him out in 5 rounds. Joshua was supposed to knock him out and he did.

Still don't like Joshua's chances against Fury. If the WBO forces the Usyk fight, Joshua mauls him though.

 

[StevenK]

Joshua did what he was supposed to do.

Pulev was in his prime 6 years ago when an aged Wlad blasted him out in 5 rounds. Joshua was supposed to knock him out and he did.

You ever been blasted by an aged man?

 

[Gaston]

I have decided I fucking hate Joshua. He has no chin but acts like he is the next boxing legend. He boxed well but got 0 opposition. You just see him smirk once he realises he will easily take the victory and that makes me wanna punch him in the face.

 

[famicommander]

Lethwei event:

Toe the Line Fight Series 3:

BKFC 16 is February 5. The British BKB promotion returns sometime in February also.

And former Youtube brawler/Bellator fighter Dada 5000 also started his own bare knuckle promotion called BYB: Backyard Brawls. They have a weird ass triangular ring. Somehow they landed a TV deal on BeIN Sports Network but they won't air live fights. They do events and then sell tape delayed PPVs, then make TV episodes out of those. They just ran their fourth event earlier this month. Seems really low level but it's good for the sport to have more places getting fighters some experience.

 

[famicommander]

The International Boxing Hall of Fame Class of 2020 has been announced. Here are the modern era boxers who made it this year:
Floyd Mayweather, Jr
Wladimir Klitschko
Andre Ward
Laila Ali
Ann Wolfe

They will be inducted in a double ceremony with last year's class, who had their induction canceled by COVID:
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Christy Martin
Lucia Rijker

Can't really argue with any of those names. Only three modern era men and two women get in per year, which means some extremely deserving first year candidates will have to wait a bit longer including James Toney and Miguel Cotto.

On the women's side Martin, Rijker, Wolfe, and Ali will go down as the four women who legitimized women's boxing. They had to battle to get their fights sanctioned, let alone promoted or put on big cards. It's fitting that those four will be the initial inductees (last year's class that had to be delayed by COVID was the first one to include women).

 

[famicommander]

GGG vs Kamil Szeremeta tonight for Golovkin's IBF and IBO world middleweight titles.

Then Canelo vs Callum Smith tomorrow to unify the WBA (Super), WBA (Regular), WBC, and The Ring world super middleweight titles

Hopefully we finally get Canelo vs GGG III if they both win.

Canelo is in for a much tougher test in theory.

 

[famicommander]

Dillian Whyte vs Alexander Povetkin rematch has been delayed again because Povetkin got a rather bad case of COVID. He's hoping to be back to boxing shape in the spring.

Dillian Whyte said he wants a big fight before then, and called out Luis Ortiz.

Ortiz today said he'd be down for the fight, and went a step farther and said he'd be willing to let Whyte have the fight in the UK.

Let's see if Whyte accepts this time. He has a habit of calling people out and then ducking the fight
Called out Ortiz, WBC ordered the fight for a mandatory, Ortiz accepted, Whyte backed out, Ortiz got 2 Wilder fights and got knocked out twice instead
Called out Pulev, IBF ordered the fight for a mandatory, Pulev accepted, Whyte backed out, Pulev got the Joshua fight and got knocked out
Called out Joshua for a rematch, Joshua offered the four belt title fight, Whyte backed out, Ruiz took the fight and knocked Joshua out
Called out Breazeale, Breazeale offered to put his already earned mandatory status on the line, Whyte backed out, Wilder knocked out Breazeale instead

But Ortiz is getting pretty damn old. Maybe Whyte thinks this is the time to pick the cherry. But that's what he thought about Povetkin last time and he got KTFO.

 

[famicommander]

Much like Joshua last weekend, GGG did what he was supposed to.

He knocked out a legitimate contender with ease. Battered him around the ring, knocked him down four times. Looked a lot better than he did against Derevyanchenko or Rolls.

 

[famicommander]

Canelo utterly dominated Callum Smith tonight. He established himself as the clear #1 at 168.

Canelo holds these titles at the moment
Middleweight: Lineal, The Ring, WBA (Super), WBC (Franchise)
Super Middleweight: The Ring, WBA (Super), WBC

Possible next opponents:
third Golovkin fight at 160 or 168 (IBF and IBO 160 champ)
Artur Beterbiev at 175 (toughest fight available), WBC/IBF/Ring/Lineal champ
Dmitry Bivol at 175, WBA (Super) champ
Jermall Charlo at 160 or 168 (WBC 160 fake champ)
Billy Joe Saunders at 168 (garbage fight, hopefully not, but he has a belt) WBO champ
Caleb Plant at 168 (IBF champ)
David Benavidez at 168 (2X WBC champ; lost his belts due to missing weight and failing cocaine tests respectively, still undefeated)

 

[famicommander]

Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai, Juan Francisco Estrada, and Carlos Cuadras are the modern day Four Kings. All champions, all willing to fight each other, and the fights are always great. The modern day version of the Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard rivalry.

November 17, 2012: Chocolatito def. Estrada, UD12
May 31, 2014: Cuadras def. Sor Rungvisai, TD8
March 18, 2017: Sor Rungvisai def. Chocolatito, MD12
September 10, 2016: Chocolatito def. Cuadras, UD12
September 9, 2017: Estrada def. Cuadras, UD12
September 9, 2017: Sor Rungvisai def. Chocolatito, KO4
February 24, 2018: Sor Rungvisai def. Estrada, MD12
April 26, 2019: Estrada def. Sor Rungvisai, UD12
October 23, 2020: Estrada def Cuadras, TKO11

Career records
Carlos Cuadras: 39-4-1-0, 27 KO
former WBC Super Flyweight Champion (6 successful defenses)

Juan Francisco Estrada: 44-3-0-0, 28 KO
Former WBA/WBO Flyweight Champion (5 successful defenses)
Current WBC/The Ring/Lineal Super Flyweight Champion (2 successful defenses)

Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez: 50-2-0-0, 41 KO
Former WBA Minimumweight Champion (3 successful defenses)
Former WBA Light Flyweight Champion (5 successful defenses)
Former WBC/The Ring/Lineal Flyweight Champion (4 successful defenses)
Former WBC Super Flyweight Champion
Reigning WBA Super Flyweight Champion (1 successful defense)

Srisaket Sor Rungvisai: 49-5-1-0, 42 KO
Former WBC/The Ring/Lineal Super Flyweight Champion (3 successful WBC defenses, 1 successful The Ring/Lineal defense)

Now hopefully we get Chocolatito vs Estrada II and Sor Rungvisai vs Cuadras II

Quoting this because on March 13:
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez II for Estrada's WBC, The Ring, and lineal and Gonzalez's WBA (Super) Super Flyweight World Championships

Also, the WBC has announced that the winner must face Srisaket Sor Rungvisai for their next title defense. So we either get Estrada vs Sor Rungvisai III or Gonzalez vs Sor Rungvisai III.

Seems doubtful Sor Rungvisai is going to fight someone like Cuadras while he waits for his guaranteed unfied, lineal title shot unfortunately. But maybe Cuadras can get a shot at Jerwin Ancajas or Kazuto Ioka, who have the other two belts in the division.

Either way, this is one of the deepest divisions in recent boxing history.

 

[famicommander]

Frankie Randall has died at 59 years old.

Randall was a 3X world champion and is best remembered as the man who handed the legendary Julio Cesar Chavez his first official loss. Chavez was a staggering 89-0-1 when he lost to Randall (even though that draw should have been a loss to Sweet Pea).

Randall won the WBC and lineal super lightweight titles against Chavez, then lost them in a controversial split technical decision in the rematch
Then Randall won the WBA super lightweight championship against Juan Martin Coggi, lost it in the rematch, and won it again in the rubber match.

 

[famicommander]

Claressa Shields will face Marie-Eve Dicaire in an undisputed super welterweight title fight. Belts on the line:
Shields' WBC and WBO
Dicaire's IBF
Vacant WBA (Super), The Ring, and Lineal titles

The fight will headline an all women's PPV card on Fite TV on March 5.

Respect to the female champs for actually fighting each other. It's easier in women's boxing because there are fewer contenders, but the fighters still have to accept the fights and by and large the women don't duck like the men do.