Movie opinions thread (what have you seen, what did you think?)

[SouthtownKid]

Plus, fami thinks he "wins" simply if a sequel gets greenlit. Nothing about it actually getting made. And yes, movies get "greenlit" but then canceled all the time. So that's some horseshit.

 

[famicommander]

My point is that it has performed well enough in the regions it has already released that even if it's a Suicide Squad level bomb in the US, it's still going to double its budget and they'll still have HBO Max streaming numbers to consider.

Godzilla vs Kong had the exact same budget as Dune (165 million), it was a Warner and Legendary co-production like Dune, it was a day one HBO Max release like Dune, and it's a pandemic movie like Dune. The reported break-even figure for Godzilla vs Kong was 330 million. It did 467 million and sequels were confirmed a couple months later.

So I think that's the best comparison we have, unless someone reports a more specific break-even figure for Dune.

Warner Bros/Legendary’s Dune continued its spicy run at the international box office this weekend, adding a further $26.3M from 32 markets to lift the offshore total to $76.5M. To quote the Denis Villeneuve-directed film, this is only the beginning as the sci-fi epic is in early overseas release with many key areas to come. The overall drop from opening was a terrific 32%.

In like-for-like markets and at today’s rates, the world-building saga is running ahead of all comps from Tenet (+12%) to Black Widow (+49%), Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings (+64%), Blade Runner 2049 (+73%) and Godzilla Vs Kong (+87%).

New this session were Middle East hubs with the UAE taking in $1M and coming +68% ahead of Villeneuve’s 2017 Blade Runner. Saudi Arabia produced $969K, tracking on par with Free Guy (Saudi is the fifth biggest market overall on the latter film). Great individual holds were seen in such markets as Netherlands (-12%), Denmark (-17%), Finland (-22%) and Germany (-23%).

Dune held No. 1s in all majors where it has released: Russia, France, Germany, Italy and Spain — and is throwing off strong numbers in those markets with holds better than -40%. The Top 5 to date are Russia ($15M), France ($13.4M), Germany ($10.2M), Italy ($5.1M) and Spain ($4.9M).

‘Dune’ Mines $77M Cume Through Second Early Offshore Frame – International Box Office

UPDATE, writethru: Warner Bros/Legendary’s Dune continued its spicy run at the international box office this weekend, adding a further $26.3M from 32 markets to lift the offshore total to $76.5M. To quote the Denis Villeneuve-directed film, this is only the beginning as the sci-fi epic is in...

deadline.com

It will be at 120-150 million worldwide before it releases in any more markets, and it still hasn't released in any of the top six movie markets (US, China, India, UK, Japan, South Korea) or half the total markets it will release in.

October 13: Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand

October 14: Greece, Malaysia

October 15: Japan, Ghana, Nigeria, Vietnam, East Africa

October 20: South Korea

October 21: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Israel, Mexico, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia, United Kingdom, Ireland, Uruguay, Venezuela

October 22: USA, Canada, China, India, Bulgaria, Poland, Romania, South Africa, Turkey

December 2: Australia

 

[jro]

The last two Bond movies did a combined two billion dollars so they spent big on this one and got hosed by the pandemic.

Of course there will be more Bond no matter what. This one will do impressive numbers regardless, they just may have set the bar out of reach.

I read that both Netflix and Apple both offered MGM somewhere around $500-$600 million for it and MGM wasn't interested. I guess studio execs get paid to be gamblers, not risk managers.

 

[famicommander]

I read that both Netflix and Apple both offered MGM somewhere around $500-$600 million for it and MGM wasn't interested. I guess studio execs get paid to be gamblers, not risk managers.

I think it will do more than 600 million for sure. It's just nuts that they could make 600 million at the box office and still lose several hundred million on it.

EDIT:
Apparently during the pandemic they re-shot several scenes to add tons more product placement, so that will definitely help the bottom line

 

[evil wasabi]

I have never seen someone hurt themselves over a movie more than Fami is doing.

and that includes Raul Julia.

 

[SouthtownKid]

The Bond production was troubled from the beginning. From an audience's perspective, it's almost lucky we had the pandemic and the lockdown to give them time to fix things and second guess some of the wild choices they were reportedly making, but test audiences hated. I'm sure new product placement helped pay for the reshoots and double marketing bill. But I think they probably also used the reshoots to undo the direction they were taking.

One thing I will say about Dune is that what we've seen so far makes the movie look dang impressive for 165 million.

 

[famicommander]

One thing I will say about Dune is that what we've seen so far makes the movie look dang impressive for 165 million.

That's one thing Villeneuve has always had a knack for. Blade Runner 2049 was only 20 million more than that and Arrival was only 47 million total.

 

[fake]

I don’t think Villy is even interested in working with Warners at this point. Even if they decide to go with the next chapter, it may be a troglodytic half sibling of the first.

 

[fake]

I watched Manhunter. Holy shit. Such style. It should be in the 80s time capsule.

 

[famicommander]

I don’t think Villy is even interested in working with Warners at this point. Even if they decide to go with the next chapter, it may be a troglodytic half sibling of the first.

He has said he has already completed drafts for the sequel's script and is still working on it and hopes to do Messiah as well. He said Warner has told him that HBO Max streaming will be a factor and that he'll know by December whether he will get to film the sequel, and he'll be ready to start filming by the middle of next year.

 

[evil wasabi]

That's one thing Villeneuve has always had a knack for. Blade Runner 2049 was only 20 million more than that and Arrival was only 47 million total.

 

[LoneSage]

We are witnessing the deconstruction of a man

 

[fake]

He has said he has already completed drafts for the sequel's script and is still working on it and hopes to do Messiah as well. He said Warner has told him that HBO Max streaming will be a factor and that he'll know by December whether he will get to film the sequel, and he'll be ready to start filming by the middle of next year.

The thing is fammy, lad...
A guy with a few million dollars to lose is gonna say stuff like that.

Also, you know Fami doesn't know what he's talking about when he calls WB "Warner" instead of "Warners."

Also:

 

[evil wasabi]

That kerning…

 

[SouthtownKid]

That is hilarious.

 

[jro]

Human Capital (mostly bad American version) - I think a lot got lost in the translation of the Italian original. There's barely anything at all that even bothers to tie into the title, i.e. the main point of the original, in favor of a pretty bad three-story knock-off that doesn't go anywhere interesting. Maya Hawke and Liev Schreiber are both really good, but good performances can't save a bad, misjudged script. The Schreiber storyline seems like it could to get good then just kinda dies.

Also, Maya Hawke looks SO MUCH like both her parents.

 

[oliverclaude]

We are witnessing the deconstruction of a man

That of a child, right? I mean none of those Dune arguments above matter to someone who liked or disliked the film. That's about the only thing that counts and it's 100% subjective. I'll definitely give it a chance, but seeing who's on the screenwriter team does not add up to my excitement. Spaihts did Prometheus to less than average results and Roth should hang for The Postman but I'll do my best not to be biased.

 

[joe8]

The last two Bond movies did a combined two billion dollars so they spent big on this one and got hosed by the pandemic.

Of course there will be more Bond no matter what. This one will do impressive numbers regardless, they just may have set the bar out of reach.

I don't know why Daniel Craig is quitting as Bond. It will be hard for anyone to take over from him. He's the same age as Connery was when he did his last Bond movie, but looks younger than Connery did at that age.

Connery and Craig were the best Bond actors IMO, and Lazenby was good also.

 

[evil wasabi]

I don't know why Daniel Craig is quitting as Bond. It will be hard for anyone to take over from him. He's the same age as Connery was when he did his last Bond movie, but looks younger than Connery did at the same age.

Connery and Craig were the best Bonds IMO, and Lazenby was good also.

Probably has something to do with box office expectations being more important than having fun. The Craig bond movies are full of action and suspense, but not really fun at all. Can’t think of any of his movies I want to watch again.

 

[LoneSage]

Everything after Casino Royale was garbage.

 

[joe8]

Probably has something to do with box office expectations being more important than having fun. The Craig bond movies are full of action and suspense, but not really fun at all. Can’t think of any of his movies I want to watch again.

I would agree, I can't fault Craig's acting as Bond, but the story writing in some of the recent Bond movies wasn't as good as that for the Connery films- not as engaging for the audience. Also, Connery had more humor than Craig.

Casino Royale and Skyfall were fairly good, Quantum of Solace and Spectre, not so much.

 

[evil wasabi]

I would agree, I can't fault Craig's acting as Bond, but the story writing in some of the recent Bond movies wasn't as good as that for the Connery films- not as engaging for the audience. Also, Connery had more humor than Craig.

Casino Royale and Skyfall were fairly good, Quantum of Solace and Spectre, not so much.

Craig was wooden in Knives Out (a comedy, that’s why I bring it up). He’s a male model, but not really an actor.

 

[HornheaDD]

Everything including Casino Royale was garbage.

Ftfy

 

[sylvie]

If it weren't for Pierce Brosnan being the most handsome Bond to date at the time, GoldenEye would be absolute shit. The only other TRULY acceptable Bond is Sean Connery who was the perfect fit for the role. I am not a fan of Roger Moore's portrayals at all.

My 2nd favorite Bond movie is actually License to Kill which has Timothy Dalton, and while I LOVE his acting in the movie, he's not the most amazing candidate for being James Bond.

Dr. No is still prob the only Bond movie that gets it all right. Goldfinger is good too.

There are still a few I haven't seen but I think they're mostly Moore films, the Australian guy, and new ones. Tomorrow Never Dies was absolutely horrible, didn't finish it and I haven't bothered trying to watch anything that came out after it. I did have the PS1 game when I was a kid and it kept me occupied despite wishing I was playing GoldenEye instead.

 

[LoneSage]

Ftfy

dude. what. casino royale.