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Taiso

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I know you're probably just joking but Terry and Mai were chosen since SF6 dlc is Fatal Fury (Garou Densetsu) based. Devs went as far as saying they love RB2 in particular. This is the reason that there's Terry and not Kyo, if they do another SVC / CVS you will see Kyo and Ryu on the cover 100%.
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I know you're probably just joking but Terry and Mai were chosen since SF6 dlc is Fatal Fury (Garou Densetsu) based. Devs went as far as saying they love RB2 in particular. This is the reason that there's Terry and not Kyo, if they do another SVC / CVS you will see Kyo and Ryu on the cover 100%.
What's the reason for Fighting Layer and Smash Ultimate, then? Whether a niche or mainstream franchise, that's a 3-0 in Terry's favor.

If this were Transformers, Terry is Optimus Prime and Kyo is Hot Rod. There's a reason Prime still lives on as the more iconic character.

And it's such a good thing that, hypothetically, Kyo and Ryu would share another cover together. As we all know, if there's one category Japanese characters are underrepresented in, it's fighting games.
 
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What's the reason for Fighting Layer and Smash Ultimate, then? Whether a niche or mainstream franchise, that's a 3-0 in Terry's favor.

If this were Transformers, Terry is Optimus Prime and Kyo is Hot Rod. There's a reason Prime still lives on as the more iconic character.

And it's such a good thing that, hypothetically, Kyo and Ryu would share another cover together. As we all know, if there's one category Japanese characters are underrepresented in, it's fighting games.
I have been too online today. After yesterday's presidential debate, I'm a little short tempered. I will just say you are 100% right, nobody cares about Kyo anymore (if they ever did) and Terry is SNK's mascot whether SNK wanted it that way or not.

It's not even about franchises anymore. Terry is just 'the man' for SNK. It's that simple and anyone that is being honest will acknowledge that.
 

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Terry is just 'the man' for SNK. It's that simple and anyone that is being honest will acknowledge that.

This. Wasn't that ghost guy supposed to be SNK's mascot and then Fatal Fury came out and shifted the focus to Terry?

And if I'm being honest, Im glad they are using jacket/cap Terry than bomber jacket Terry from Garou. While Garou Terry is rad, the jacket and cap are just iconic for the guy.
 

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This. Wasn't that ghost guy supposed to be SNK's mascot and then Fatal Fury came out and shifted the focus to Terry?
If you mean G-Mantle, it's not really a comparison. One was used for their marketing, and showed up occasionally as an easter egg, while the other is the lead character in a fighting game. I don't know what focus we're shifting here.
 

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If you mean G-Mantle, it's not really a comparison. One was used for their marketing, and showed up occasionally as an easter egg, while the other is the lead character in a fighting game. I don't know what focus we're shifting here.

G-Mantle, yeah. Well if he was intended as a marketing the argument could be made that it was the face or mascot of SNK.

Then Fatal Fury came out and Terry blew up and is now their mascot. So that's the focus Im referring to I guess?
 

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G-Mantle seems like the kind of character that a major video game company would want to use as a mascot, similar to Mario or Sonic. Kinda silly, family friendly, good for merchandising like plushies and whatnot.

But Mario and Sonic are in a bunch of video games and their status as a mascot is backed up by the volume of their presence.

To me, Terry being in so many damn video games makes him SNK's mascot by default. He's undoubtedly their fighting game representative (along with Mai) but if SNK can be said to have a mascot of any kind, it has to be Terry.
 

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This. Wasn't that ghost guy supposed to be SNK's mascot and then Fatal Fury came out and shifted the focus to Terry?

And if I'm being honest, Im glad they are using jacket/cap Terry than bomber jacket Terry from Garou. While Garou Terry is rad, the jacket and cap are just iconic for the guy.
Bet Garou Terrry is either DLC or unlockable through some World Tour bullshit like the classic SF2 costumes.

What they should make unlockable is a better soundtrack though.
 

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Bet Garou Terrry is either DLC or unlockable through some World Tour bullshit like the classic SF2 costumes.

What they should make unlockable is a better soundtrack though.
I'm not much impressed with any of Street Fighter 6. But it's gonna have Terry so I'll try it out.
 

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i think the game is fine except for its style which i find to be very embarassing, but I've said it before. it's the zoomer version of street fighter.

tekken 8 is also pretty good but full of paid DLC bullshit, old costumes and customization items that were free in tekken 7 just because bamco trying to get a few extra bucks because everybody else is doing it.
 

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Funny to think about how far Kyo as fallen in his role as SNK's mascot. Since Smash Bros. Terry has reclaimed it big time and Kyo is nowhere to be found outside of "obligatory KOF roster character".

Not at all mad at it. Terry is iconic and deserves to be the man.
 

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I always thought of Kyo as the face of KoF and not the "mascot" of SNK.
 

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I always thought of Kyo as the face of KoF and not the "mascot" of SNK.
For a while there, KoF WAS SNK but they made the critical mistake of driving their art direction towards fashion trends rather than the timeless art direction of other series.

There is no doubt that some of those characters are very striking in their design. Iori comes to mind, as does Shermie. But when I think of the art direction of characters specific to KoF, I think of the characters that would look great in any fighter:

Chin Gentsai
Kensou
Athena
Goro Daimon
All of Ikari (including Leona and Whip)
Choi Bounge
Chang Koehan

There are more, but the point I'm trying to make here is that while none of these were 'excellent' designs, they were good video game characters that followed an archetype while maintaining their own unique flavor. Martial artists, soldiers, a convict and a chibi Freddy Kreuger. All of these things are pop culture staples with designs rooted in the familiar. Just like a guy in a karate gi or a sumo outfit or a Chinese dress or Mike Tyson or a power mad dictator.

I don't want anyone to think that I loathe the KoF art direction. On the contrary, it was something that made SNK unique and different and I rather like it. But as those 90s anime tropes aged out, it got replaced with Falcoon's city pop style when what SNK needed was to capitalize on their popularity and establish some new franchises, maybe that weren't fighters, that might have grown their business model with the types of games that would have been new for them but might have been more famiiar to consumers.

They tried with stuff like Cool Cool Toon, a game WAY ahead of its time in my opinion, but that's just it. It was too niche and they needed something more recognizable. Conquering Japan is one thing. Capcom conquered the world so successfully that even today, after years and years of financially questionable business practices, they're still around and still very relevant to the market.

Honestly, they should have just put Terry's silhouette from Real Bout with the white star on his back next to the logo. That was imagery meant for it.
 

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"Why SNK doesn't get more respect for that is beyond me."

Because Stonepa was born after 2000.

..... Or after 2010 more likely. Probably thinks Minecraft is a retro game.
 

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Yeah, as if 39 random sword-wielding characters are more deserving.

Heck, they missed the mark on *that* category, too. How the heck is Adol Christin not in a Smash game?
 
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