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How old was Ewan McGregor when Revenge of the Sith was filmed?
34. Yikes.
34. Yikes.
Movie opinions thread (what have you seen, what did you think?)
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Ah, my bad, that one was a WOOOOSH on my part.
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Hahaha no it was my fault, I accidentally typed the wrong name. They both have semi exotic names.
I really dig Vera Farminga she has been great in just about everything I've seen her regardless of the quality of the actual show or movie. Shit, I watched way more of Bates Motel than I would have otherwise if it hadn't been for her.
I really dig Vera Farminga she has been great in just about everything I've seen her regardless of the quality of the actual show or movie. Shit, I watched way more of Bates Motel than I would have otherwise if it hadn't been for her.
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Sheeeeiiiiiiiit
I love clone wars/rebels/bed betch.
Way more character development for Obi-Wan, Anakin (meh), definitely Maul, and Ahsoka, of course.
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*sad LoneSage sounds*
Wait. I was in a movie when I was 32. It's OK, I'm happy again.
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Nothing personal about 34 - just that Hollywood can be so ageist in offering middle aged roles to younger actors. It’s unfair.
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Control- This covers the formation of Joy Division through Ian Curtis's death in 1980. The main focus is on his relationship with his wife(who wrote the book the movie is based on) and his mistress more than the actual music but it does have some impressive recreations of some of their live shows. Certainly not a feel good movie but it is very well made. Recommended.
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No, I wasn't really saying that- just that there are usually one or two films in a series that stand head and shoulders above the rest, and define the series as well. It isn't always one of the first two films, for example, Prometheus is arguably the second or third best Alien film (after the original from 1979), but it was a much later entry in the series. Another example is The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, which is the third film in the Dollars Trilogy.
The Connery films are usually considered the best of the Bond series, but whether they are head and shoulders above the rest is debatable. And there isn't any one Connery film that is clearly the best of the Connery Bond films.
IMO, his best films were Dr. No and From Russia with Love. Those were more straight-up spy movies than the ones after, which had more emphasis on high-tech gadgets.
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Wtf Joe… is your blood-eucalyptus level ok?
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I think Prometheus was a interesting concept/premise that was executed poorly. It was like Scott was saying "I wanna make this pretty cool prequel story about the origin of the Xenos, but I also just watched the Star Wars prequels and am gonna change shit.. it'll work itself out."
If he had kept it closer to the original film series it could have been much better. I mean I like the idea of the Engineers, etc. But then he completely omits the reason the 'neers want us dead, only to 'reveal' that Jesus Christ was an Engineer, humans murdered him, and then the rest of them decided 'fuck it, lets kill hoomans using this WMD we devised."
Don't get me started on Covenant, with David creating the Xenos. That's some bullshit right there.
If he had kept it closer to the original film series it could have been much better. I mean I like the idea of the Engineers, etc. But then he completely omits the reason the 'neers want us dead, only to 'reveal' that Jesus Christ was an Engineer, humans murdered him, and then the rest of them decided 'fuck it, lets kill hoomans using this WMD we devised."
Don't get me started on Covenant, with David creating the Xenos. That's some bullshit right there.
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I don't understand why creators of mysterious creatures feel the need to explain their origins decades later.
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I get the appeal, sure. I wanna know background on movies/shows/books. But if you create this idea or mythos and want to add to the background - you need to keep in mind that you've painted yourself into a corner and you need to make that background fit the story you've already presented.
Or better yet - leave stuff open to interpretation. Some of the best stories have gaps in them and it gives the fans great opportunity to discuss your stories for years just trying to figure out how this became that, or where that came from.
Or better yet - leave stuff open to interpretation. Some of the best stories have gaps in them and it gives the fans great opportunity to discuss your stories for years just trying to figure out how this became that, or where that came from.
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Prometheus and Covenant are like the original Alien.
Very dumb movies.
Here's the difference.
Alien had atmosphere, tension and a never before realized vision of a bleak future of corporate brinksmanship. It had grit, felt raw and desperate and, like real life, contained dangers in the shadows that you can't defeat until you confront them.
Prometheus and Covenant were more concerned with their own ideas than with making a human connection with the audience. If you do not primarily focus on establishing sentiments of fear and compassion, it's just a bunch of bullshit and noise.
Very dumb movies.
Here's the difference.
Alien had atmosphere, tension and a never before realized vision of a bleak future of corporate brinksmanship. It had grit, felt raw and desperate and, like real life, contained dangers in the shadows that you can't defeat until you confront them.
Prometheus and Covenant were more concerned with their own ideas than with making a human connection with the audience. If you do not primarily focus on establishing sentiments of fear and compassion, it's just a bunch of bullshit and noise.
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Prometheus and Alien Covenant are ridiculously horrible movies and nothing any of the characters do in either movie makes the slightest bit of sense.
Those movies are worse than Alien 3 by a lot, and Alien 3 is fucking terrible.
Those movies are worse than Alien 3 by a lot, and Alien 3 is fucking terrible.
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I'm going to set a bad precedent for myself and agree with Joe that Prometheus is the second best Alien movie after the original.
Keeping in mind that's a stupidly low bar. It's only competition for the title of second best is Aliens, which is a movie that has steadily shrunk in stature for me in the years since its release. As has James Cameron himself. He's like George Lucas in that he was visually inventive and had a couple accidentally fun movies early on, but has spent all the decades since proving to the world over and over that he's not the genius the public initially branded him, and that he can't write his way out of a wet paper bag.
Ridley Scott has made a few absolute stinkers, but by and large, even his disasters are better written and directed than anything James Cameron has ever done. Cameron got lucky somehow. He never really should have risen above being a special effects guy on other people's movies.
Also keep in mind that when I say I consider Prometheus the second best Alien movie, it still wasn't good enough for me to want to see Covenant. Maybe I'll watch it someday if it's ever streaming somewhere I already subscribe to.
Keeping in mind that's a stupidly low bar. It's only competition for the title of second best is Aliens, which is a movie that has steadily shrunk in stature for me in the years since its release. As has James Cameron himself. He's like George Lucas in that he was visually inventive and had a couple accidentally fun movies early on, but has spent all the decades since proving to the world over and over that he's not the genius the public initially branded him, and that he can't write his way out of a wet paper bag.
Ridley Scott has made a few absolute stinkers, but by and large, even his disasters are better written and directed than anything James Cameron has ever done. Cameron got lucky somehow. He never really should have risen above being a special effects guy on other people's movies.
Also keep in mind that when I say I consider Prometheus the second best Alien movie, it still wasn't good enough for me to want to see Covenant. Maybe I'll watch it someday if it's ever streaming somewhere I already subscribe to.
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Just saw this part. Holy shit. Did you spend your childhood jumping on your bed into a ceiling fan?
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I think another mistake people make with the Alien franchise is getting upset about the canon.
Look.
The IP holders don't give a shit about the lore.
If you something like that, who connects all the various iterations into a semi cohesive whole, I encourage you to go get the Free League RPG.
It's a valiant effort by super fans to systematize and organize all the various side stories, spin offs, video games, novels, etc. It's a weight the game can't possibly bear but it's not for lack of trying.
They care about the canon way more than Fox, and now Disney, ever did.
Stop investing yourself in shit that the parent companies have absolutely O regard for.
Look.
The IP holders don't give a shit about the lore.
If you something like that, who connects all the various iterations into a semi cohesive whole, I encourage you to go get the Free League RPG.
It's a valiant effort by super fans to systematize and organize all the various side stories, spin offs, video games, novels, etc. It's a weight the game can't possibly bear but it's not for lack of trying.
They care about the canon way more than Fox, and now Disney, ever did.
Stop investing yourself in shit that the parent companies have absolutely O regard for.
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This right here.
In a lot of instances fans ruin things way more than the studios or creators because of their constant need (aspergers) to connect and categorize everything.
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Prometheus and Covenant don't suck because of the Alien canon, which had already been ruined by Alien 3 and Resurrection anyway.
They suck because the plots of the movies are ridiculously stupid. There is no reason for the frozen people in Prometheus not to know their mission before being unfrozen, there is no reason for Weyland to lie about the mission or being dead, there is no reason for the scientists to immediately take off their helmets on an alien planet, there is no reason for scientists to run away from a 1000 year old corpse and get lost in a tunnel system they already made a point of showing us they've fully mapped with robots.... it just goes on and on.
Every decision made by every character in both movies is completely inexplicable and is only made so that the next action sequence can come.
They suck because the plots of the movies are ridiculously stupid. There is no reason for the frozen people in Prometheus not to know their mission before being unfrozen, there is no reason for Weyland to lie about the mission or being dead, there is no reason for the scientists to immediately take off their helmets on an alien planet, there is no reason for scientists to run away from a 1000 year old corpse and get lost in a tunnel system they already made a point of showing us they've fully mapped with robots.... it just goes on and on.
Every decision made by every character in both movies is completely inexplicable and is only made so that the next action sequence can come.