Movie opinions thread (what have you seen, what did you think?)
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If that is the promise from the onset, then the fans have a legit gripe.
But it's clear that the Alien franchise has always been subject to the corporate whim of its owners. They don't care about storytelling or worldbuilding.
Alien never had a Christopher Tolkien, an advocate in an authority position, to vigorously defend the integrity of the property from the parasites that would bleed it dry and leave its husk for dead. He died and the Tolkien society had a conference where every panel was about how gay LotR 'always was.'
I'm screaming mad at these leeches corrupting Tolkien's vision. Alien, on the other hand, has always been a joke other than the first two films.
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Now I wanna watch Alien and Aliens.
Which makes me realize I don't have those movies on 4K or Blu Ray.
But I do have them on Laserdisc, so that'll have to do.
Which makes me realize I don't have those movies on 4K or Blu Ray.
But I do have them on Laserdisc, so that'll have to do.
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Nah dude. Alien is a dumb movie, analyzed to death by postmodern faggors that have given it more legitimacy than it actually had as a narrative.
It's strengths are its dystopian vision of the future, its claustrophobic tension, its unique monster and its utterly believable cast, which evokes the human connection that separates this from less worthy horror fare. But the characters make a lot of dumb decisions in it. And there is dumb things that are never explained.
All of the analysis this flick has received since its debut is really worthy of mockery.
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This is funny because lach is racist against his own kind.
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It really does go back to the fans though. People are gluttons for punishment, these beloved stories wouldn't be repeatedly raped if people would just accept that they should be left alone. Terminator and Predator series are also prime examples of this. Die hard fans just won't accept that there will never be another good one and willingly support the continuation of garbage even if it's just so they can have something to be upset about.
At a certain point failure is the only option.
Look at The Thing remake/prequel. The studio tried it, it flopped because the fans knew better and so it was left alone after that. That should be happening a lot more than it does. But idiots keep feeding the shit machine.
Plus studios bank on so much now it's not just "Oh shit that was an unexpected hit, let's rush out a sequel" It's lets plan the next 10 installment and spin offs. So now we get 7 shitty sequels, TV shows, cartoon and mechanizing for shit no one asked for and no one in their right mind would even want.
At a certain point failure is the only option.
Look at The Thing remake/prequel. The studio tried it, it flopped because the fans knew better and so it was left alone after that. That should be happening a lot more than it does. But idiots keep feeding the shit machine.
Plus studios bank on so much now it's not just "Oh shit that was an unexpected hit, let's rush out a sequel" It's lets plan the next 10 installment and spin offs. So now we get 7 shitty sequels, TV shows, cartoon and mechanizing for shit no one asked for and no one in their right mind would even want.
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I think 'fans' are just a subsection of the larger market share.
The Marvel movies are mostly trash but they keep making money because normies pay money to see it. They've become social events. If it was TV, the Burlmgton Bar twats would stream their viewing parties.
Fans don't make billion dollar franchises. Normies do. Fans didn't stop Captain Marvel from making a billion dollars, but I wish they would have.
The Marvel movies are mostly trash but they keep making money because normies pay money to see it. They've become social events. If it was TV, the Burlmgton Bar twats would stream their viewing parties.
Fans don't make billion dollar franchises. Normies do. Fans didn't stop Captain Marvel from making a billion dollars, but I wish they would have.
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Crocodile Dundee is in the same basket as joe8. Such irreparable damage to the national image these two have inflicted!
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Fuck, I've been saying it was autism. It's aspergers?
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I think you’re dead on about MCU being a social event.
I’m honestly ok with that. The MCU from Iron Man to Endgame was a helluva ride. It was a shared story from a lot of different angles and everyone had a character or two they could follow in it.
After Endgame it was done. We’ll never see something like this again and the lightning they captured is now likely uncapturable. Movie Execs seem to have got the wrong message though and seem to just want to churn out sequel after sequel that really doesn’t work towards anything (that or it’s just…bad DC I’m looking at you.)
GoT on HBO unfortunately due to the latter seasons is like this. What could have been a great show is now looking back nothing more than a shared social experience. Some fun water cooler talk while we all speculated what would happen next.
I understand that to an extent Lost was like that as well. Something that had to be seen at the time and shared with others.
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There was a skylight and a eucalyptus tree growing right above his bedroom. What was he supposed to do, go outside and climb the tree? If you time it JUST right, you can leap between the spinning fan blades, out the skylight, and onto the tree branch, or at least that's what 11/10 decapitated koalas believe.
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Guys, I only like Alien.
Aliens for me is like enjoying Rambo 2 or Rocky II (Don’t get me wrong, Certainly Aliens stands on its own as an excellent action flick and far better than Rambo/Rocky sequels) but my point is Aliens was a film that did not need to be made.
I actually think the start of Aliens is really hokey. It’s fun once we get back to where the events of the first film took place, but the setup always seemed a bit forced to me.
Aliens for me is like enjoying Rambo 2 or Rocky II (Don’t get me wrong, Certainly Aliens stands on its own as an excellent action flick and far better than Rambo/Rocky sequels) but my point is Aliens was a film that did not need to be made.
I actually think the start of Aliens is really hokey. It’s fun once we get back to where the events of the first film took place, but the setup always seemed a bit forced to me.
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I think because digital platforms gives people voices, it's all just amplified.
Fan discontent has existed ever since entertainment came to be considered a medium worthy of preservation. But that's really all just a byproduct of capitalism and IP exploitation.
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I really like it. It's not a very good movie but there's enough cool shit in it and I like the setting.
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Movie opinions thread (what have you seen, what did you think?)
Mom and Dad I didn’t expect much as this a Nic Cage film, but I loved it. Kind of like The Cell, starring Nic Cage and SLJ, but this one has Cage and Selma Blair, a little home alone, and a firebird.
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I like that right below that is HDR sticking up for fascists.
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Shouldn't you be reporting to the dance floor, you freakazoid?
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I do, it's not as good as the first one, but, it's a'ight.
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It's 5AM. I never fell asleep. I was too busy searching for Predator.
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Sage is no Dexter Douglas.
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I had never seen Predator 2 up until, I dunno, maybe a year ago. Found myself enjoying it quite a lot, actually, but yeah, it's definitely not "good" in the normal sense of the word, much more of a guilty pleasure. Somehow felt to me like it's held up better than a lot of the late '80's - early '90's action movies though, maybe due to Glover being a more relatable protagonist than the usual.
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