Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

[NeoSneth]

Oddly enough, there are quite a few critics claiming they like Last Jedi all of a sudden. There are certainly moments that I really like in Last Jedi if you take the rest of the movie and shove it.
Some people are bringing up some good points with Ep9. It does feel like a trilogy in itself that was compressed into a single movie. There were so many paths they could have explored, but it just had to jump to the next scene. So many wasted opportunities..... Like more Keri Russell.

 

[XxHennersXx]

Saw it last night. I liked it far more than 8, I liked 7 for what it was - you can call 7 just a remake of 4 all you want, to me that’s just showing history is cyclical if you do not stop the cycle.

8 I liked at first until the casino scene which honestly doesn’t fucking matter at all. Finns entire arc in 8 doesn’t matter. And how the fuck do two main protagonists not meet until the END of the second film in a trilogy?

Anyway, 9 the first half was so rapid paced - basically the same thing that happened with episode 3 where they’re essentially shoving 2 films worth of plot into one movie because they fucked around so much on the second film.

But overall decent experience.

 

[@M]

I don't remember if it was here, or on Orochinagi, but, many years ago, I remember seeing an image from a manga page, on some SNK/Neo forum, where Geese saved himself with said air Reppuken (and I think he hit and killed some poor fuck with it in the process to boot), but, I don't know if that manga was canon or not. That projectile does typically knock him backwards a bit when he uses it, but, it's rather doubtful it'd be with enough force to counteract a fall like that, but, maybe it was enough to cushion the impact enough so that it wasn't lethal. Personally, I like to think that Geese did die at the end of Fatal Fury 1, but he's like an "unsent" from Final Fantasy X (i.e., Auron), and just refuses to acknowledge his demise and keeps going on by sheer force of will.

 

[HornheaDD]

I submit that we turn this into a Geese theory thread.

 

[Xavier]

You hit two great points. The typical SJW backlash towards critics of Ep VIII was absurd. People would get into the meat of the film and address how it was poorly done. The SJW crowd would then take it to "Oh, you don't like strong female characters?" or "Are you racist against Asians?" or some other blanket insult. Others would then tell them "Well, it's not your Star Wars" or call them a manchild or some other crap...which is equally as pointless.

Guess I'm sexist or something but when I saw it I was like why did the hawt sister die and chunky plain one live?

Not trying to be mean and go post it on her social media page but that honestly was my first gut reaction.

TLJ could've been a decent movie if Luke's scenes were better scripted and directed, to me that's the main thing it comes down to. The movie was gorgeous visually.

 

[DevilRedeemed]

Just watched it.
Big surprise
Pushing aside the fact that it is the third part of a trilogy, the 9th faux part of a saga, and disjointed to some degree because of all the shit in how it was made, plus JJ to me is something akin to a parrot (mimics)
as a film on its own
There is enough there to really enjoy the ride.
Something about it seems sincere, as if by this instalment everyone earned their stripes. Everything wrong with 8 here is redeemed.
Some truly emotional moments too. I got a little.. emotional, just a bit, a lump in the throat type thing.
Visually it is the best since the original 3 films.
Yeah, as a film on it's own, its an 8 out of 10.
Some dumb stuff can be forgiven, at its core is a moving story and it is told well enough
This is Spider-Man 3 done right

 

[DevilRedeemed]

Maybe a 7.5
An 8 is a bit much.
This film is all about oedipus and incest fantasy.
Not a spoiler per se. You'll see

 

[LoneSage]

Spider-man 3 was done right. Better than any Marvel movie by far.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Weirdest hill ever to die on.

 

[@M]

I submit that we turn this into a Geese theory thread.

I've already gone too far off topic as-is, but, if somebody wants to start a Geese thread in a more appropriate area of the forum, I'm game.

 

[LoneSage]

Weirdest hill ever to die on.

Kid, you've never even seen SM3. It's brilliant. The cringey fingerbang emo scene with Peter? It's purposefully cringey. Peter is a nerd, the symbiote was changing him into what a nerd would think is cool (strutting like Travolta fingerbanging every pretty girl on the street). Harry's arc over the three films and its conclusion here is very moving. Sandman, who is practically a god here, is also a tragic character portrayed brilliantly by Thomas Haden Church. People are mad that the That 70s Show actor was cast as Eddie Brock instead of some massive guy? Boo-hoo, he was a great foil for Peter!

And on top of all that, the film is very campy at times, and it knows it! "How's the pie?" "Sooo good." Raimi is on top of his game here!

The only things I really didn't like about the film are things I never hear other people complain about, and they are:

1. The news anchors providing commentary during the big fight at the end. Completely unnecessary and ruined the flow.
2. Tobey Maguire was about 15 pounds too fat for this film.

Maybe it's the coffee talking but I am this close to buying a plane ticket to Japan and showing up at your front door so we can watch this together, by threat of metal bat.

 

[DevilRedeemed]

Kid, you've never even seen SM3. It's brilliant. The cringey fingerbang emo scene with Peter? It's purposefully cringey. Peter is a nerd, the symbiote was changing him into what a nerd would think is cool (strutting like Travolta fingerbanging every pretty girl on the street). Harry's arc over the three films and its conclusion here is very moving. Sandman, who is practically a god here, is also a tragic character portrayed brilliantly by Thomas Haden Church. People are mad that the That 70s Show actor was cast as Eddie Brock instead of some massive guy? Boo-hoo, he was a great foil for Peter!

And on top of all that, the film is very campy at times, and it knows it! "How's the pie?" "Sooo good." Raimi is on top of his game here!

The only things I really didn't like about the film are things I never hear other people complain about, and they are:

1. The news anchors providing commentary during the big fight at the end. Completely unnecessary and ruined the flow.
2. Tobey Maguire was about 15 pounds too fat for this film.

Maybe it's the coffee talking but I am this close to buying a plane ticket to Japan and showing up at your front door so we can watch this together, by threat of metal bat.

I love Spider-Man 2, maybe my favourite superhero film ever (along with Blade 2)
3 has some very touching parts like you mention. But when shadow Parker erupts something happens and I literally want to throw up and feel nauseous for a while after. Not sure why but something very jolting happens and remains even when Venom takes final form.
I tried watching it again the other day and had to turn it off at said point.
Fuck knows what's wrong with me. Must have hit my head and forgot I was Mary Jane

 

[XxHennersXx]

Spider-man 3 was done right. Better than any Marvel movie by far.

What the fuck?

I mean, sure whatever but uh while we’re at it I guess

Toy Story 2 was ok.

 

[lithy]

Toy Story 2 was way more than ok.

 

[HornheaDD]

Toy Story 2 was way more than ok.

I think he was being feces isshus.

 

[LoneSage]

Fuck you, fuck Henners, lithy's cool


Fuckin Toy Story in a Star Wars thread

 

[Lee Gray]

I only enjoyed it to see the Emperor back but at the same time I thought it was totally pointless Rejuvenating him for all of 90 seconds screen time, might as well have just left him as he was. Would have been cool to see him board one of the star destroyers.

 

[lithy]

Fuck you, fuck Henners, lithy's cool


Fuckin Toy Story in a Star Wars thread

 

[BlackaneseNiNjA]

Question (contains spoilers):

Spoiler:

C-3PO specifically states that he can’t translate the message in Rise of Skywalker because he said his original programming specifically forbids him from translating Sith text...

...but with that said, Anakin was shown to have built C-3PO as a child in episode I. If Anakin built C3PO as a child before he ever knew that much about the Jedi or the Sith, how the hell did he program that protocal in C-3PO without knowledge of the Sith, let alone the existence of their ancient language?

There’s no way a child Anakin could build and preprogram C-3PO to forbid ancient Sith text without knowledge of anything related to the existence of the Sith at that time.

We could just assume that someone captured him and added the protocol at some point but this was never even hinted at. I know all this was just made up as they went along and decided to expand everything as a franchise, but this just seemed glaring.

 

[ggallegos1]

Question (contains spoilers):

Spoiler:

C-3PO specifically states that he can’t translate the message in Rise of Skywalker because he said his original programming specifically forbids him from translating Sith text...

...but with that said, Anakin was shown to have built C-3PO as a child in episode I. If Anakin built C3PO as a child before he ever knew that much about the Jedi or the Sith, how the hell did he program that protocal in C-3PO without knowledge of the Sith, let alone the existence of their ancient language?

There’s no way a child Anakin could build and preprogram C-3PO to forbid ancient Sith text without knowledge of anything related to the existence of the Sith at that time.

We could just assume that someone captured him and added the protocol at some point but this was never even hinted at. I know all this was just made up as they went along and decided to expand everything as a franchise, but this just seemed glaring.

My assumption was

Spoiler:

Protocol droids have a standardized program package that automatically contains procedures and language packages within the scripts. It's more likely that a protocol program was used which already had this restriction in place.

 

[BlackaneseNiNjA]

My assumption was

Spoiler:

Protocol droids have a standardized program package that automatically contains procedures and language packages within the scripts. It's more likely that a protocol program was used which already had this restriction in place.

Thank you for the response. I guess I wasn’t alone though; apparently others noticed this flaw as well lol

Spoiler:

https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-c3po-sith-block/

 

[XxHennersXx]

Fuck you, fuck Henners, lithy's cool


Fuckin Toy Story in a Star Wars thread

I mean, they’re both Disney films. More on topic than Spider-Man 3.

 

[Heinz]

I didn't mind this movie, it's honestly in the same ballpark of any of the previous Star Wars films but my main gripe with Star Wars in general is this:

You never really feel that the jedi will lose, there's no fear, no real danger. This story is romantic as hell no matter how enormous the odds aren't stacked in the jedi's favour. Star Trek is a far better story.

Take this for an example in the latest film, this mass force is essentially grounded without guidance by these comms towers, this 'new order' has a stupid weakness such as this!? It's unbelievable.

 

[DevilRedeemed]

I mean, they’re both Disney films. More on topic than Spider-Man 3.

Hey you shut it

 

[DevilRedeemed]

I didn't mind this movie, it's honestly in the same ballpark of any of the previous Star Wars films but my main gripe with Star Wars in general is this:

You never really feel that the jedi will lose, there's no fear, no real danger. This story is romantic as hell no matter how enormous the odds aren't stacked in the jedi's favour. Star Trek is a far better story.

Take this for an example in the latest film, this mass force is essentially grounded without guidance by these comms towers, this 'new order' has a stupid weakness such as this!? It's unbelievable.

I'll go as far as to say that nothing, zilch, nada outside of the 2 main protagonists in this episode mattered at all. It's all part of the scenery, a setting. The film enters around identity and the dark/light principle in both good and bad. So to some degree these films are disengenious because the fate of the galaxy never really was at stake, as you say.
Maybe this would require way too much work and Abrams decided to work with what he knew which is the inner workings of the character.
Ir is weird, but episodes 3 4 and 5 are the only ever to come out which have kept you not really knowing the destiny of the galaxy.
The prequels where just origin stories and parts 7 8 9 as is plain to see are just minimal stories in a wider, irrelevant context.
The instance Darth Vader died, Star Wars as a story of conflict big and small, concluded